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1880-S Morgan

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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anybody see what I do in this coin? There is some really significant mirroring struggling to come out from under the haze....

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 Posted 06/28/2007  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it may be a ms62 prooflike. With all the scratching and muck it is still a beautiful coin to me.
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 Posted 06/28/2007  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I may be looking at this differently than mrcoin, but I see a much higher grade. I assume this is raw and not light scratching on a holder? Judging by the shadows is all....

Again, I stink at this game, but I have seen worse coins with a 64 badge and even higher. I just don't see any significant "dings" or chatter anywhere that typically lowers these a ton, with the exception of the fine lines. Especially in the focal areas.

What am I missing here Dave? wWat's with the discoloration in the liberty recesses? Just toning affecting that area only?
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 Posted 06/28/2007  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK. I am in no way endorsing what I did to this coin as a general practice. However, under certain specific conditions, the result is so much better than the original as to justify the process.

I bought this coin raw, and cheap. It's a very common piece, even in Gem Prooflike, so I wasn't destroying something with significant intrinsic value. I felt that the original color was questionable, just like the coins which tone while siting on my desk. Between the color and the milky areas, this coin's eye appeal was being destroyed.

So I dipped it. Here's the result:

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The obverse is every bit of DMPL. The reverse is only PL, but very near MS66-level details. Remember that I use very harsh halogen lighting in my images, which brings out every little mark on the coin. The prominent marks on the obverse under BUS aren't visible in-hand - they're on the surface, not in it. I can only see most of the marks in the obverse field under the loupe, with the coin tilted. In-hand, I call this one MS64PL, and the between the cameo and the mirrors, eye appeal is off the charts. All the lines you see are die polishing, adding character to an already-nice coin. This one's going into my 7070 for the moment.
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 Posted 06/28/2007  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say that, with that kind of result, it is sometimes worth dipping a coin! She's absolutely gorgeous! I agree with your grade wholeheartedly.

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ahh, much nicer and a nice light dip job. After what you stated, I may agree with your 64 guess. I have only dipped about a dozen coins in my life and most only required a light treatment and most worked out better than the oringinal state. As with you, I only treated inexpensive coins.
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 Posted 06/28/2007  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You mean I got one right? Bad news is, had you shown me the post dipping photo, I would have went 65 for sure. Doah.

I still stand behind the fact that I've seen much worse coins in a 64, regardless of any PL designation....Of course, those are "market" graded. Sorry Mom.
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