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Augustus Sestertius... Real Or Not Real?

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An interesting albeit corroded, tooled, and overcleaned coin from the recent "TIF's Folly" mixed lot

In an old paper envelope, handwritten in pencil:

Quote:
NO GOOD
Sestertius
1st Emperor
29 BC-14 AD
WR Page 16 Blake #19

Here's the coin, and what I think is the correct attribution below.

Augustus-Sestertius...-Real-Or-Not-Real?

Augustus sestertius
moneyer C. Asinius Gallus

struck 16 BC, Rome
33 mm, 20.9 gm
Obv: laurel wreath flanked by two laurel branches, OB CIVIS SERVATOS; wreath (CIVIS within wreath)
Rev: C ASINIVS C F GALLVS IIIVIR AAAFF around large SC
Ref: RIC I 370

Why do you think the previous owner wrote "NO GOOD" on the envelope? "No good" as in tooled, overcleaned, and corroded? Or "no good" as in fake?

I'm not finding any red flags for fakery on this one. Any opinions?

Not knowing what Ob Civis Servatos meant, I searched and found the following information from this book (ebook available online):

New Varieties of Gold and Silver Coins, Counterfeit Coins, and Bullion: With Mint Values. 2nd Ed., Rearranged,
Jacob Reese Eckfeldt, William Ewing Du Bois
G. P. Putnam, 1851

Augustus-Sestertius...-Real-Or-Not-Real?

So it looks like "ob civis servatos" roughly translates to "preserve the citizens".

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A little worse for wear but I haven't seen many of these coins in much better shape. I see nothing wrong with it, nice coin.
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I honestly don't believe the piece is fake. I do believe the piece is a) Overcleaned - which is fine and common on Roman bronzes found in the last century. b) Tooled- this is never good, but if the tooling had the intention of cleaning it is better than tooling with the intention of engraving details that are not or were never there to begin with. c) The coin has a rough corroded surface.

Higher end collectors would steer clear of a piece such as this, but bottom feeders would be all over something like this. IMHO I think its a keeper, unless you wanted to make the parasites that swim around you very happy.
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Decent coin, TIF. If that came out of the same lot as the Athens, the Paduan and Republican pieces, you may not be doing as poorly as you thought.

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John
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I wouldn't describe it as tooled. The surfaces seem to be intact so it is better described as "scraped".
It looks to be real and it is a rare type of issue (very desirable).
I am reasonably sure it could be 'flipped' for $100 ..... possibly more
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