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1946 Half Dollar Hoof Through 6?

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 Posted 11/30/2013  10:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone, could you please help me in determining if this coin is a hoof through variety? As you can see in the pictures, the hoof is protruding into the 6, but not all the way through...Also, do you noticed a doubling on the date?

Thanks very much

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 Posted 11/30/2013  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
from these pics I cant tell but if you go to coinsandcanada.com there is an example there
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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not the hoof through 6 variety.... I cannot tell from the pictures if this is a double date.... but the three repunches that I know about are 1) on the bottom curve of the 6... 2) below the bottom curve of the six ...3) On the top right curve of the six.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex A to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2013 Charlton has the 1946 pictures in the Fifty Cents section.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The recognized design through 6 is in the 2014 Charltons 68th edition in the Variety section.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So what is protruding through the 6? If you look at the regular variety, the hoof ends at the 6...this one the hoof clearly go through the 6 but not all the way. I don't know what to make of it. I have had a few other 46s, and this is the first I notice with this difference.
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I believe its not actually a hoof but a die chip, similar to the '49 and '50, where the 9 or 0 also contain die chips that enlarged as the die wore on through time to the point where it fills the 6 or 9 or 0 and "appears" to be a hoof extension but is not.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Malibu...what do you make of the hoof cutting off at 3 quarters though?
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 Posted 11/30/2013  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cityofkooks

Pginrh who answered earlier in the post is the 50 cent master... He has done all the variety sections on the Canadian 50 cent coins in the Charlton books... He can give you the correct answers on anything. He's been studying them for a long time.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Coin Chick,

I did look at the section that Pginrh referred to...I cannot find the same type. thank you though
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 Posted 11/30/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's very helpful. When you get to 50 posts you can email him directly which makes things easier.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should get to posting then :)
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CityofKooks: I believe that the mark that you are questioning would make the hoof too long and is just that, a die mark inside the six. I went through the unique die 1946's in my collections and there are five with different die chips, several with a double mark inside the die which almost looks to be part of the drapery design outside the six and most with no design inside the six. I seem to remember that I have seen a 1946 coin with a mark inside the six like yours and will look for one when I go to the Brampton coin show this weekend (though nicer quality George VI fifty cent coins are getting somewhat scarce.

Coin Chick: Thanks for the kind words. Are you ready for the next test?
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 Posted 11/30/2013  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much
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 Posted 12/01/2013  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the Brampton coin-show I examined all the 1946 fifty cents that I could find. None matched yours, but since the Mint published figure was 30 Reverse Dies used in that year, your die may have not been represented. As per my previous entry, George VI coins in EF and up are not that plentiful (a lot of the lower quality ones went into the smelter with the recent upsurge in silver prices)....

A little bit of date digit positioning explanation... the last two date digits for 1946 were entered manually into the dies... the rest of the die design elements were already there... Your wide date coin was struck by a die where the '4' and '6' were entered at almost the rightmost positioning possible and so cut off the hoof (some of the drapery design made it into the six on other wide date coins).... but I don't think the hoof extended far enough to be the mark that you see inside the '6'. I was looking for a like coin that I might be able to characterize further but without luck....I will continue to keep an eye out for one.

I enjoy following up on things like this, and sometimes I can find a suitable answer... if you have other questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's great to know. Thanks so much for following up
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