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 Posted 12/23/2013  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jpbone --

You did a great job of explaining the "look" of this coin, and how being in the dirt, it was unable to "acquire" the look that a collector desires to see on this type of coin. That explains very well, to someone like me who doesn't understand what a TRUE collector (unlike myself, who "collects" coins in a different way) is interested in.

And like I said to chesterb, I do not intend to sell the coin, I just like to know what value (though normally very small) the coins in my "collection" have. You are right...for what this coin means to me, $10 doesn't come close to buying this coin; I was ecstatic when I dug it, and that's what I think of each time I look at this coin.

Thank you!

Steve
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 Posted 12/23/2013  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sgoss, this was/ is an interesting post that resulted in a very informative discussion.
Thanks all!
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 Posted 12/23/2013  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good-4 details
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 Posted 12/23/2013  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bpoc1 -- glad you enjoyed it. I love to learn, and the only way to learn in my mind is to find people who have alot of knowledge, and then ask a bunch of questions -- and then, sit back and listen! The folks here have been very patient with all of my many questions in a number of recent posts I've made, and I'm grateful that many have been willing to share their expertise on subjects I know little about!

Thanks, IndianGoldEagle...

Steve
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 Posted 12/23/2013  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost looks like it was in the fire. Was there any dark soil as you dug it.
At any rate....." Roundness in the pock baby " !
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 Posted 12/23/2013  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I didn't see any unusually dark dirt there, though I admit I wasn't looking...

Do you say that because of the really light coloring, or what do you see that suggests that possibility?

Steve
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I just mentioned it because I've seen coins that almost turn white from a fire. Well actually I used to do that as a kid, throw a quarter in the campfire to try and melt it. Never worked but sure did turn em white lol.
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 Posted 12/23/2013  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is something about:
"I found it. I dug it up. I would not sell it."
that makes me feel good.
A 'dug find' is different from other coins. It has a history that can only be guessed at.
I salute all who "sweep with confangled machinery" and wish them well.
If only I were younger ...
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I dug this coin, from the site of a church built in the 1850s that then burned down about 50 years later around the turn of the century, and the piece of land has been just a forest ever since.

I think 52raymo may be to on to something. I wouldn't say that I have seen a lot of dug coins since I don't usually look for them but the few I remember seeing were dark unless harshly cleaned. There was a thread a little while back where a member had found a 1870-CC half dollar while metal detecting. That coin was found in New York and was quite dark compared to your coin. Here is a like to that thread. Soil conditions and climate vary by region and depending on where it was dug, it may or may not look like the one in the thread. With that said, I will still expect it to have acquired some patina from being 150+ years in the ground. That is until the comment made by 52raymo which may explain why it is so white and possibly why it stayed that way while in the ground. It might be worth asking someone knowledgeable in chemistry or metallurgy at that. Anyways, I think it grades G-4 details. I going to say cleaned since that is what it looks like even though it may have been barely cleaned. The marketplace may not know of its history and since it looks cleaned, it will probably be bought and sold as such.
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 Posted 12/24/2013  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
matthewvincent -- thanks for the kind words! And, not sure what age you are, but it's never too late to give it a try... ;)

D0ubl3Eagle -- I have indeed seen some silver come out of the ground nearly black, but that's usually from coins that have been in very wet soil (like swampy). Occasionally, one will have a very gray residue. Usually, though, they look really nice -- and can just be rinsed with water and will look pretty good.

WOW -- what a coin that link took me to! While it's an INCREDIBLE find, though, I will say that most of the silver coins I have dug do NOT look like that. It is absolutely true that different soil will do different things to silver coins, but most I dig look much less stained, than that one (despite the otherwise "redeeming qualities" of that coin! :) ) WOW!!

Steve
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 Posted 12/29/2013  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G6 details. 10-15$ sounds about right.
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