High Grade Semi-Key Mercs...new Pics...please Grade

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hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 12/31/2013 1:57 pm I have taken better and more accurate pics of some of the Mercury dimes I posted yesterday. I didn't use the horrible camera setting where every minute mark is extremely over-saturated. I am still having some trouble with lighting, but that has also improved. I did not re-photograph the 21-P &21-D as those two where less effected by the picture problems. I have also included a small picture of PCGS's photograde to demonstrate what an XF is as some posters were calling coins with completely separated and well defined details as XF. NGC and ANACS are actually even more lenient. I saw an NGC AU55 recently with complete flatness on both diagonal reverse bands. The PCGS XF Here are the new pics. 1924-D, my opinion AU-55/58 1924-S FSB. The bands are completely split and even more so in hand. All lines are solid start to finish. The coin does have more hits than you'd want, but I see no actual wear, just hits on some spots to make it look like wear. There is cartwheel luster, more so in hand, but it's not booming like a gem piece. my opinion MS-61. 1926-D; interesting coin with very nice tone. I see no wear, but it has a weak strike. Bands are struck flat and obverse barely has a date. Possible collar break even. Tough to grade. I think it may actually be MS-62, but could market grade lower. 1926-S; Hints of light luster, but most has worn away. my opinion XF-45. 1927-D; nice cartwheel luster. I see no wear, just a few unfortunate hits again. Obverse cheek hit not as bad as it seems in pic, but will drop it. my opinion MS-62. 1928-D; color still looks off, it looks much better in hand. The coin does have a slight cartwheel, but it is very faint. It know it hasn't been cleaned per se, but looking again, it may have dipped slightly. It is basically a typical greatsoutherncoins "full original GEM BU+++", or for the rest of us, AU-50 or possibly AU details. 1928-S; definitely nice with full cartwheel. Some hits again. I'm a bit unsure on this one as to wear. If so, it is extremely faint. Possible AU-58, but probably a low MS market grade. Report this Post to the Staff

hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 12/31/2013 4:48 pm Just wanted to bump this thread because people are still going to the other threads with the worse pictures Report this Post to the Staff
dsfreeworld Pillar of the Community United States 4337 Posts	Posted 01/01/2014 1:18 pm The 24-S top band is not split in full from these pics either; the (my) left of the top band has an interference in it and I do not believe this warrants FSB from auction archives I have perused of the same. The lighting is certainly different on all of these pics but the fact remains that the surfaces are marred with problems and these coins are not BU nor GEM BU and granted the appointments of some of the reliefs are very well defined, however the nicks and hits and other issues of that nature warrant details grades and/or a depreciation of overall grade per coin. The 24-D is the nicest of the bunch. I'm sure your not in agreement and maybe even dismissive of my opinion and I hope you realize where I may not speak from decades of experience, I do offer my outlook based on comprehensive research of the series that is readily available online. All in all, if you're happy that is what counts the most. In most cases, where I value opinions, I value my personal pleasure over all else. Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 01/01/2014 2:51 pm @dsfreeworld I'm not sure if we disagree very much on the coins, and I am certainly not dismissive at all of your opinion. I know I might come off that way sometime, but it's just the way I write, I just think of it as debate. In fact, I wish you would say much more about the coins. The coins came from two different collections and I already mixed them all up, but I believe all the high grade ones with hits came from the same person. My impression is that they were probably mishandled by placing them on a table, taking them off, placing them back on..etc. They are clearly not GEM pieces. I just believe the 24-S, 26-D, and 27-D don't have any actual wear. Would I be shocked if TPG called any of them high AU, no. Based on what I have seen from low MS slabs I own or have handled of any type of coin, none of them have hits to the degree that they would get a damage details grade. I've seen MS-60 or MS-61 with deeper gashes even, but no actual wear. The issues brought up with regards to "cleaning" or dipping are more a problem I'm still having with lighting. The 24-D, 26-D, and 26-S are obviously original, even from my pics. I can understand the question with the other 4 from my pics. Every single one of the coins has what appears as mint luster in hand with no hairlines at all on any. I know none have been cleaned. Slightly dipped is a different story. The 24-S, 27-D, and 28-S all have cartwheel luster and at low MS/possible high AU they look very similar to other non-toned coins I've seen, even in slabs. A very minor dip to a coin in this grade would probably be undetectable, so I can't guarantee it, but they look fine in hand. The 28-D does raise a question in hand as well. Again no hairlines and it does have hints of cartwheel, but it is a bit more dull than I'd like it and could have seen more significant dipping. Personally, I do think only the 28-D might fall to a details grade and is a low AU coin IMO. I also believe only the 26-S will go anywhere past AU. I just can't see the rest going past AU-55 at the lowest. You have to look hard with magnification to find wear on the rest and some I can't find any (distinguishing from hits). Looking at other AU pieces that often have some naked eye wear, I do think some people have been grading these lower than they should, but I am still interested in hearing the grades. Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 01/01/2014 2:57 pm forgot to mention with my long winded response; The 24-S really does have a full split at the top. I can't take better pics. I checked with magnification. There is one tiny interruption because of one hit, but I have comparison that that won't disqualify it. The bands all have a line I can see from end to end. The line does get faint at points. The line is more faint than any slabbed FSB coin I have, but I'm not sure what the threshold would be. It is completely split so I think it would be okay, but I'm not certain. Report this Post to the Staff
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