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1898 Barber Half

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 Posted 01/03/2014  5:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add denkan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone! How would you grade this one?

I bought it for "AU-Money", how far off am I?

I'm no expert at grading, but I looked at a PCGS Barber from 1898 with AU50 grade and thought they looked alike

The coin has alot lusture under the toning, but I have no proper camera atm so I'll post the sellers photos and some taken with my cellphone to show you the toning.

The toning is kinda Purple-ish and more lightblue one one spot on the right side of Liberty's face.

And please don't say that it's been cleaned. I don't want to have made that mistake again



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 Posted 01/03/2014  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Biting my fingers as I write this I'll agree with an AU-50 grade.
And I am VERY conservative grader.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would go AU-55 very nice
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 Posted 01/03/2014  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you think about the "hit","scar","line" at the bottom of Libertys neck? Is that something that could make it a details grade?

345$ is BY FAR the most money I've ever spent on a coin, so even though I like it, I kinda need someone to tell me it was 345$ well spent
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 Posted 01/03/2014  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that isn't AU then I don't know what is. Nice coin and good strike too! It looks like Liberty had some lymph nodes removed in the neck. I don't think that in itself is enough to give it a details grade.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mid AU. 53/55. I don't think the neck mark would be a problem.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am also borderline between AU 53/AU 55, leaning towards 55.

I don't think the scratch on the neck would get a details grade, not long or deep enough.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grade it about $400.

Seriously, for the record. Very_nice, original AU, and a $400 coin (or better) in a reputable TPG slab.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/03/2014  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All original. Nice coin. AU53+
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It has the details of an AU-58+ coin and the luster of an AU-50....so I agree with the masses, 53-55. I have an NGC AU-53 example that has stronger luster but weaker details than this example. Nice coining, I like the toning!!
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 Posted 01/04/2014  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Re: the 'scratch' on the neck.
Every coin design has what are called 'focal areas.'
These areas are where one's eyes are drawn first.
With the Barber design this is where my eyes go first:
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The LIBERTY and surrounding hair is the primary focus area.
[A secondary focal area would be the leaves of the wreath.]
The neck scratch is as far away as possible and is not distracting to me. Had the same scratch been in the areas marked by the black lines it would have been a distraction.
An AU coin has been circulated and is likely to have a few minor abrasions. Bottom line: NOT a problem.

" I looked at a PCGS Barber from 1898 with AU50 grade and thought they looked alike "
Denken, you choose this instead of the slabbed example. I
think you did very well. Will this be a type coin or part of a set?

$345? Yes, a hefty amount of money. But well worth it.
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Edit: the cheek looks very free of distractions.
Also, the multiple pictures at slightly different angles
afforded enough examples to study.
I should add that the neck scratch, had it been on a quarter or a dime, would be more of a problem.

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 Posted 01/04/2014  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion on this coin!

Matthew: Well, it was not really a choice between the slabed coin and this. The slabbed coin had a BIN for over 600$ and I can't remember if they were able to ship to Sweden.

I really don't know what qualifies for a type coin or part of a set?

I have a very small Collection of coins wich I hope will grow over the years. I would say that my collecting is focused on Barber coins. But that doesn't say much since I only have 4 quarters and 2 halves atm Maybe it's time for me to explore ebay abit further...
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 Posted 01/04/2014  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Utmärkt! En annan Barber entusiast.
Excellent! Another Barber enthusiast.

A few examples of Barber coins in this condition is difficult enough.
A complete set of half dollars in this condition is next to impossible.

A type coin would be a single example in very nice condition.

I'd be happy to give my opinion on any dimes that you might be considering.
Dimes are my specialty. I have built a complete set and am now trying to upgrade it.
Overall, dealers DROOL when they see it.
Also, consider including a Barber nickel. Popularly called a "V" nickel.

If you change your profile to allow email we can establish a direct contact.

This link:
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will take you to a picture gallery of the series.


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 Posted 01/04/2014  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it would grade around a AU-53 or 55.
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