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Valued Member
United States
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What is up with this Byzantine coin of Michael IV? Is it a forgery?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just looks like an odd planchet or it's been clipped.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks JCM, I picked it up for $10 and was the only one who bid on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to have to disagree here... it's not clipped, that is how they made it. I saw on Time Team they were talking about the lazy practice of making a strip of metal then cutting it off to make an oblong hexagon this is rounded and may well be clipped but I have to wonder if it was made that way Here is one of my ancient ones, no clue about it,   I'll get better snaps of it and the rest of my unknown's soon and post for eye-candy and ID |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's Spanish, you can see the revaluation countermark (VIII) on the obv. Some of the Byzantine issues were made with metal ribbon as you describe, but these large anonymous folles were struck on cast planchets. Here is a fals made from metal ribbon, you can see the two end cuts quite distinctly. Mamluk, Abu Sa'id Barquq (1st reign), Halab, ND(788-89 H).  And here are some Byzantine folles on cut planchets, all are Constans II.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Correction: all are Constans II except for the bottom which is a small module trachy, probably imitative, not enough detail to tell.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's Spanish, you can see the revaluation countermark (VIII) on the obv.
Thanks I knew it would not take long to have someone ID that one, I'm not going to worry about them now, still working on a better camera set up and these are all so nasty I know it will be days to get a good picture on most of them, have about 10 ancients and even a silver that is claimed to be from the 1300's, but it is paper thing and worn to a frazzle! |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Before the advent of office email, we were issued with hard copy office circulars, where rectangular in shape, (A4, to be precise). I called them 'oblongculars'.  ; they certainly were NOT circular in shape! There are also rectangular coins issued by Japan: the shu (silver) and (bu) gold coins, and Pa'anga NCLT issues of Tonga. The blanks of the later, smaller serstertii of the Roman Empire, were probably cut from a bar, which may explain the reason for their slightly flattened sides. |
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and even a silver that is claimed to be from the 1300's, but it is paper thing and worn to a frazzle! I have (well, bought yesterday) a coin supposedly from 14th-century Suzdal [IIRC - could be some other Russian feudal place] that looks very very close to what you're describing. Looking at the catalogues, it could be *Suzdal - an issue that seems to be imitating Western European pennies - or it could just as well be an actual Western European penny. I doubt there's enough of it left to be sure of either. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mine has what seems to be Arabic I'll dig it out and put it front of a camera tomorrow, sleepy time now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i have a few weird shaped byzantines, I have a romanus iii that looks just like a guitar pick.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It was maybe issued in the reign of Michael IV, but it is of the "anonymous folles" series.
Obverse will often have Jesus on it, rather than an Emperor and the reverse often has some legends on Jesus, such as "IC -XC" or "Basileus...."
They were often overstruck on the AE's of the previous reign.
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Posted 01/04/2014 8:35 pm
