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The first one I think is Demetrios of Macedonia. The third one is a new style Attica Owl. Athena's helmet seems to have been through the wars.
If they are real, they could be quite valuable. Whether they are real or not, I will leave that to the experts.
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I am not an expert by any means, but I am suspicious of the Pegasus, possible casting pearls under the tail, on hind leg, above back and under the wing. Also possible pearls on the owl, on the chest under the beak.
The coins look as though they are dirty and need some gentle cleaning, or they have been deliberately dirtied to cover up other signs. I hope I am wrong.
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Second one is a Corinth stater with Silenus control mark. Like this one: https://goccf.com/t/153039Like Pish, I will leave determination of authenticity to others. Would be best to see them in person as it can be difficult to pick out well-made reproductions by photographs. |
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A pawn shop owner friend of mine has them. We were wondering if TPG was warranted and I thought of posting them here. Thanks For the replies so far. |
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Ah Third Party Grading. I would leave them on here for a bit longer and see whether anyone comes up with a definitive answer for you before you go to the expense of having them authenticated. However, if they are genuine, most of us will weep at the prospect of encapsulating them in plastic.
Is there any chance of pictures of the edges? Is there any chance you (your friend) can clean them up a little more, if they are dirty? You would need to soak in either distilled water or de-ionised water (not normal tap water) and brush with a toothbrush. Then post the pics.
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Here is a link to an owl coin similar to yours on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CM-Attica-A...291051919387There are differences which can be put down to different dies. The leaves are different, the amphora is different, the owls eyes are different. I don't like your owl's legs, but that might be dirt. wildwinds example http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/gree...on_0322v.jpgwildwinds description: Athens. Ca. 137/6 BC. Silver New Style tetradrachm. Head of Athena Parthenos right, in pendant earring & crested Attic helmet ornamented with five horse heads on visor, Pegasus above raised ear flap, & vegetative tendrils on neckpiece / A-QE, owl standing three quarters right on fallen amphora, Nike in quadriga right in right field, magistrates MI/KI in left field, EO/L on amphora, AP in exergue, all in olive wreath. |
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so what is the general consensus better replica or original
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I was hoping others would chime in with advice.
If they were mine, I would take them to a reputable dealer and ask his opinion. If he thought they were genuine, and your friends intention was to sell them, then it would be worth getting them certified.
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I do not see signs of being obvious fakes but I am no expert and there are some well done ancient fakes. Someone here at CCF that knows more than me to give you a better guess as to authenticity. its been a little slow here lately.
In the mean time there are a couple of things that can help. Can you give the diameter and weight for each? Along with pics of the edges of the coins.
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