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1866 3 Cent Possible DD?

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I just received my 1866 3 cent with clashed dies today and noticed that it has some doubling around some of the letters. I have a few questions: Is this common with clashed dies? Is this an DD or a machine DD? Does this add any sort of premium to the total value of the coin?

Thanks!

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 Posted 07/06/2007  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The doubling is Mechanical ,,and has no relation to the die clash ,, it also adds no value to the coin .

Don't we get to see the whole coin ?

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Fourth edition of the Cherry Picker's Guide, Vol. One shows just this sort of doubling and list the variety as first reported by Natalie Halpern in the 1970's. Is there doubling on the base of the bust, as well? Your photos look just like those in the Guide.

The book says XF $175, AU 250 and MS63 400. But it was published in 2001...so those values are completely out of touch in today's market. I have no idea if collectors of this series are actually looking for this variety.

Good Luck!!!
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 Posted 07/07/2007  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Focus in on the E of America and take one more picture. That will really tell us the difference between the one hunter20ga found in the cherrypicker's guide vs. Machine Doubling.

I'm leaning towards double die until then.
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 Posted 07/07/2007  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is Mechanical Doubling. if it was a double die the edges would roll on your coin it is shelf like.
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 Posted 07/07/2007  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just some pictures of the E, hope this helps.

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Here are some pictures of the coin if anyone's interested.
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I had a hard time taking the picture of the clash marks, so these are the best that I could take, but they look much better in real life.
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Love that clash!!
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very nice clash Amazon99 I would buy it for the clash but I still don't see a DD it looks MD to me still
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 Posted 07/07/2007  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
M/D by my lights, but MAN!!!! what a great clash.
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Sorry, is a MD.
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Thanks for everyone's help. I'm fine it it's a MD. I really like the clash on the coin. When I first saw it online, the pictures were horrible and you couldn't see the clash at all, but there was a return policy so I figured that I would take a risk. The coin was much better than I expected.
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 Posted 07/08/2007  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did the mint ever re-cut letters/digits or lap out the clashes on the dies for 3Centers?
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Hello Amazon,
I think it's pretty common with the series, here is one of my 1865's.
Lot of clash marks and doubling, after all it is a Longacre design, I have seen numerous coins just like this.
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Real neat coins, I collect as many as I can find.

Your coin is a nice one.


Later,





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Daveyn, are the clashed dies common for all the years of the 3 cent nickels or only certain ones?
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It appears they are pretty plentiful in the 65 and 66's, all a little different though. That's what makes them so interesting to collect, I love clashes and die cracks, so they are a perfect series for me to collect along with my FE's and IHC. I'm a big Longacre Fan.
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