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1847 Large Cent 7 Over Small 7

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 Posted 07/15/2007  8:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I finally have my first find.
a 1847 large cent I got in a small lot from ebay


1847-Large-Cent-7-Over-Small-7

1847-Large-Cent-7-Over-Small-7

1847-Large-Cent-7-Over-Small-7

1847-Large-Cent-7-Over-Small-7

I know there is not much premium, especially in this condition. But it was fun finding.
I think it may go VG-10 maybe Fine details. I don't know how the crud on it would affect the grade, as well as the rim dings on the obverse. Does anyone want to grade it?
Also, for any collectors of large cents, why is there no mention of what to me looks like an overpunch of the 4(at least no mention in the RedBook?) Is there an attribution # for this? I would like to label this the correct way when I put it away.
Lastly and most controversial, should I try to do anything about the crud, esp the green parts around the profile on the front and scatterred on the reverse?
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 Posted 07/15/2007  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daveyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find cpfull,
not sure about the 4, the pic is a little fuzzy, but the 7 is pretty pronounced. I would think it has at least VG details, but again it looks a little porous. I'm sure it would have some premium with someone who collects the series, but I agree you should check around for more attribution info. I love repunched dates, no matter the series, and that's a pretty nice one.

Thanks for posting, and again great find.
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 Posted 07/15/2007  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on the great find. It certainly looks as if it is an overdate. Hopefully an EAC person can give you an accurate attribution. The RedBook is not known for accurately describing certain varieties but, they do like to hype up common coins/varieties thus driving up or inflating prices on readily available material. As for the crud, on a piece in this condition and price point, I would leave it as it is (unless you will enjoy it more cleaned up) b/c removing the grim is not going to make it anymore desireable or valuable.
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 Posted 07/15/2007  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find!! Congrats!
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It looks like an N-2. Here is the description from the Grellman book:

"OBVERSE: Date repunched, clearest over top of 7. The so-called "Large 7 over Small 7" variety. The repunching is visible under the peak of the 1 an dover the tops of the 4 & 7, and weakly on the 8 on early strikes. The 7 is strongly punched into the die and appears unusually fat. Lump in field below star 13. Several points and short lines down to right from main curl over inner curl. Thin line down through center of R. Earliest also has fine lines to left from dentils at star13. The lines from the dentils fade and disappear, the ones at the inner curl become weak, and the lump under star 13 fades but remains visible. The repunching at the top of the 7 remains clear.

REVERSE: Earliest has fine polishing lines down to right from leaf just below C in CENT, plus others at same angle from left top of T in UNITED through adjacent I. These lines fade and disappear rather early. Cracks develop, first at MER and later at ED. Often seen with Strike Doubling on right side of reverse.

RARITY 3"

Quoted from The Die Varieties of United States Large Cents 1840-1857 by John R. Grellman, Jr.
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