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Gold Byzantine Coin - Emperor Heraclius

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 Posted 01/24/2014  06:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add don_kihotis7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone. I am new to this forum and I thought to show the few coins I have bought from ebay few years ago.
I am a militaria collector so I am completely novice when it comes to coins. I would like to get your opinions on this one. It's very small and light, made of Gold and has Byzantine emperor Heraclius with his 2 sons on the obverse.
Thanks in advance.

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 Posted 01/24/2014  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't like to comment on authenticity, but here is a coin on wildwinds similar to yours:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/byz/...s/sb0764.jpg

CNG Auction #19
Lot Number: 61223
Estimate: $275.00
Final Sale Price: $198.00
Denomination: Solidus
Grade: Good VF
Reference: DOC II 39h; MIB III 45; SB 764

Heraclius. 610-641 AD. AV Solidus (4.52 gm). Struck 639(?)-641 AD. Constantinople
mint. Heraclius with Heraclius Constantine on left and Heraclonas on right facing,
each holding globus cruciger / VICTORIA AVSU, cross potent on three steps; monogram
in left field, A in right; Q/CONOB. DOC II 39h; MIB III 45; SB 764. Good VF. Estimate
$275.

There are a number of similar examples including an imitative. There are also examples of the same coin with the crosses removed, so quite interesting

wildwind page for Heraclius:
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/byz/...clius/t.html

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 Posted 01/24/2014  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add don_kihotis7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and thanks for your reply.
What I have marked is the mint mark?
Different from my coin.
The price on the link you have provided is very good. I have paid much much more for this one.

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 Posted 01/24/2014  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Very nice coin. You have to be careful when buying this coin type though especially from e-Bay. There are a lot of fakes of this type along with piece that have been made in recent years for jewelry. This coin appears to be OK though.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go to acsearch and enter Heraclius solidus into the search engine. Scroll down, you might find an exact match. I don't know the significance of the sympols.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add don_kihotis7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great news Echizento. Thanks for the welcoming as well :)
I know how dangerous ebay is, so I had bought David R. Sear's book "Byzantine coins and their value" and used it as reference. Just to be 100% safe I searched for coin collectors forums in google, I found this one and thought to confirm with you guys.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mintmark is the CONOB in the bottom. It's the same on both coins.
I suspect the differing sign is either the officina mark or the year.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The character that looks like a S is the Officinae. Your coin is Sear #761.
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 Posted 01/25/2014  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sear's book has a nice chapter on Fake "Byzantine coins", some of which were made in the Lebanon, and some of their "products" have found their way to Cyprus.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add don_kihotis7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input guys.
Hi Masis, actually I got this from ebay. I think the seller was Ilya Zlobin. I had googled him and found that it's a bit contoversial weather he is selling legit stuff or not.
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Oh, the "World Renowned" coin dealer, who has "attributed over 30,000" coins.
The sublime paradox of his ebay account name as "highrating_lowprice" when, if we are fortune to have our senses, will know that the two word prefixes need to be swapped around to give a truer sense of reality.
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