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You Didnt Banish Me! 1895 Liberty Nickel Week One Variety

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OK first let me apologize. My last post was a little out there. I only thank God I didn't do anything drastic with my DDO 1917. Also, if there was something of that nature, which there wasn't, It would be an unauthorized minted coin which I would never own in the first place :-) So, to make it up to the people that I got all ruffled up. I am going to post some coins once a week that I think you will enjoy.So again my bad thx for not banishing Hflirn. I am going to present pics and if you have qquestions I will be happy to answer. Lastly, I suck at photography if you haven't noticed already. I am hiring a photographer to take pics for me (which I would never do) but I will do it for you guys. This is my 1895 Liberty nickel. It is on a Shield nickel planchet. Most people would say Impossible but they were still distributing Shield nickels until 1894 in the oil history books. Maybe they should change it to 1895. Also please take the time to notice the reverse design. Possibly the ribbon around the V? Here's one of a few of my error Liberty nickels. A coin I've heard from too many people is boring

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 Posted 01/29/2014  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why do you think this is on a Shield nickel planchet?
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 Posted 01/29/2014  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have to admit I should have said assumed. It is a slight bit thinner than a Shield nickel and a slight bit bigger in length. Yet it is a slight bit shorter than a Liberty nickel and def. Thinner. I guess I should have researched other possible planchets but it just seemed to make sense at the time. How did I know you were going to quiz me Conder lol! I would be happy to get a pick on a scale and measure board but it will take a bit so bare with
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 Posted 01/29/2014  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HFlirn, I cannot see how this would be a Shield nickel since they stopped minting in 1883. Yes, they were circulating in 1895 but the mint would not have used old coins to create new ones.

Might I make a suggestion. When you are not sure of a fact, post in the form of a question. This suggestion is two fold. First, people new to numismatics might skim the thread and pick up on it as fact when it is not. Secondly, the response from the experts here will be tailored to how you present the question. If you are 100% certain, you better be prepared to back up your assertion with facts.

i.e. This coins is smaller than expected, could it have come from a Shield nickel planchet?

I hope you understand I am saying this to try to help you.
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 Posted 01/29/2014  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know you are Conder and thank you. This will be a learning experience for me too. I have had a lot of these coins for a few years, so I'll try my best to get all the info up front. A lot of them are important pieces so I'll try to take this seriously. One thing I know is I'll be taking a lot of questions
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 Posted 01/29/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for mistaking me for Conder! Huge compliment .
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 Posted 01/29/2014  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thank you for mistaking me for Conder!


I would take that as a compliment too!
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 Posted 01/29/2014  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are all very good points and youre welcome More lol oops. Coins Kelly you have a very valid point. One I greatly agreed with as I'm sure most everyone does. However, some of the coins I am going to display may change your perception on what you just said. Or not but over the years I've come know that a lot of things I once believed I no longer do. But, if I say something that is not in writing I will do a better job of displaying it as opinion and not fact. You all are great loving this feedback!
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 Posted 01/29/2014  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Shield nickel has the same weight as any other nickel planchet but the diameter is 0.7mm smaller so it is slightly thicker. However, if you were to strike a Shield nickel planchet in a collar intended for V nickels, the planchet would expand to fill the collar upon striking so the diameter difference would be negligible at that point and the resultant struck coin would be indistinguishable from any other V nickel.
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 Posted 01/29/2014  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK I learned a lesson today... The 1895 nickel weighed 4.5 grams on the scale...I double checked calibration. Length is so close to other Shield nickels that I will have to get a second opinion, its that close. The best way I can describe the 1895 is that it is like a regular Liberty nickel with the entire lip shaved off. Again, I'm just working off what I have available to me. I will say that I understand that there are many people on this forum that have far more superior knowledge of numistics than I do. I value every bit of advice I am given here so again thank you. Here is a pick on scale

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 Posted 01/29/2014  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse me correction one of the lips off not both
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 Posted 01/30/2014  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man I'm starting off slow. Length is close to Liberty nickel not shield. I am trying to look up other planchets from the other countries we were helping mint. Anyway, Trying to decide if I should stick with one denomination until done or switch it up...thoughts?
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 Posted 01/30/2014  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frankly I think all you have is a well worn 1895 V nickel. Biokemist poited out the same thing I was going to, that the smaller thicker Shield nickel planchet would expand to fill the collar and be pressed thinner and end up being identical to the Liberty head planchet. This coin is slightly light and slightly smaller in diameter (which is what I assume you meant when you said length) but it is also heavily worn which would account for those differences.

Moe, Coinskelly, thank you, I'm flattered.
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 Posted 01/30/2014  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK I respect your opinion of course Conder. I'll have to step it up a notch I guess lol!
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