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Pillar of the Community
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Australia
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They all look like basement slabs to me ALL well and truly overgraded especialy that last one  |
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Australia
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Ive only heard of 1 SGS but I don't think they have operated since 2010. The gravy train is always a great prospect if you can make it. Looking at the other 4, they won't last.
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Australia
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Valued Member
Australia
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Very old article and it looks like they are all American based companies. That list would now be 5 x bigger now
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Australia
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Valued Member
Australia
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That's much better, still looks like US based companies. There is some reputable TPG that are situated in other countries that are good but unfortunately all these basement US companies are killing the chances for these other companies that are trying to have a go. |
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Australia
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I have bought product from IS wright before and have always been happy with my purchase, I am surprised to see them selling stuff like that but at least they have good pics and don't try to claim the grade is correct
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Valued Member
Australia
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More then likely they were in a bulk lot that they have purchased and not actually sent them to these TPG to grade them |
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Australia
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Bumping a bit of an old thread, but I have seen IS Wright and Status International auction off coins from basement TPGs. However, as serial mentioned, they don't try to claim the grade is correct, nor do they sell it for what the grade would suggest. The coins are sold as is like serial said (similarly, I've always been happy with my purchases from these guys).
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I've noticed that most Australian B&M dealers either do not know, or if they know they choose not to make known to their customers, the difference between basement slabbers and genuine TPGs. Slabs from PCGS and NGC sit side-by-side with coins slabbed by NNC, SGS and worse.
None of the ones linked to by trout are actual "independent third party graders". They're all coins that have been self-slabbed by US dealers.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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I have seen IS Wright and Status International auction off coins from basement TPGs. However, as serial mentioned, they don't try to claim the grade is correct, nor do they sell it for what the grade would suggest. The coins are sold as is  You should judge/grade/buy the coin, not the slab.(this applies to PCGS and NGC certified coins too) |
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United States
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I looked at 3 and all were obviously cleaned
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Australia
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Purely based on observation, I don't think TPGs are really a major part of collecting in Australia. It seems to be growing in popularity over the last few years, but there aren't many established dealers who have come to accept the practice. Like, if you look through a Noble Auction catalogue, they will give slabbed coins their own grade and then make a small note down the bottom like "In a slab by PCGS at MS63".
So it isn't really surprising to see the confusion. Then again, buy the coin not the slab.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would suggest sticking with the more reputable third party graders like PCGS and NGC, PCGS in particular.
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Australia
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Purely based on observation, I don't think TPGs are really a major part of collecting in Australia. It seems to be growing in popularity over the last few years, but there aren't many established dealers who have come to accept the practice. Like, if you look through a Noble Auction catalogue, they will give slabbed coins their own grade and then make a small note down the bottom like "In a slab by PCGS at MS63".
So it isn't really surprising to see the confusion. Then again, buy the coin not the slab. Good points. Probably why the majority of slabbed material from PCGS/NGC is cleared through non traditional auctions. Whether they be ebay, Pacific Rim Online Auctions, or Numisbid. |
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Posted 02/01/2014 11:48 pm
Like how long this other list is:
