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Eye Appeal Or Lack Thereof Affects Number Grade?

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I'm very new at this and think I notice a trend. Eye appealing coins will grade a bit higher, and 'details'/'corrosion' coins will grade lower, even though they both exibit the same wear. Am I on track, or just looking at an anomally?
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Youre dead on with that observation. Eye appeal is one of the factors considered.
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Absolutely!
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And once again I am an old time grader:
The 'grade' is the objective judgement of a coin's wear.
Scratches or other problems are a minus.
Eye appeal and strong strike are a plus.
To say:
"Fine details" when the wear is a Very Fine is misleading.
"Very Fine with several scratches on obverse" is the old style and gives more information.
Alas, I am a voice crying in the wilderness.
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Thanks, and the grade should be the grade, and anything else should be separate.

To take it a step further, is it possible that lower tier TPGs (that's code for lower than PCGS and NGC,) tend to grade a little more favorably?
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edweather,
If I understand you correctly - YES!
Simply put:
Plastic does not (REPEAT - NOT!] increase a grade.
Many of us chant endlessly: buy the coin and not the holder.
When a "lower tier" grader puts a coin into plastic and calls it a silk purse
it is often just a sow's ear.
But the uninformed still buy ... sad ...
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the grade should be the grade, and anything else should be separate.


Eye appeals part of the grade though so you have to take into account what the damage does to the overall look. For example a scratch away from the focal points will have less of an effect on a details grade than a harsh cleaning or bad environmental damage. They may have the same level of detail but the scratch may be a f details scratched while the other is a vg with how the eye appeal was destroyed.

You could go off just the detail but youd be applying a different standard to those coins than the others.


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is it possible that lower tier TPGs (that's code for lower than PCGS and NGC,) tend to grade a little more favorably?


Thats generally the case for top grades which is one of the reasons they arent at the top of the food chain. Its absolutely the case when talking about basement slabbers. Try and find an SGS modern thats not a 70, thats a true rarity.
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IMHO;

Oh yeah.

Those poor, eye sore, bot slabbers may become sick of the normal run of the mill nick counting.
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One more thing

Toning may be a plus factor.

If the toning is even, sweet, natural, and different from the run of the mill mundane
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