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hello, other than cleaned,bent, damaged, how would the details of this coin grade? I think it has the 1849 reverse and it might have been a rusty die?   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Canada
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VF-20 And as you stated cleaned,heavy rim damage and bent
Feel free to call me Will.
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02/07/2014 7:21 pm
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 United States
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as far as I know... are there ways to tell?
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United States
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as far as I know it is, it looks heavily cleaned, the reverse has some really crusty crevices, no signs of casting., I think it may have been dug, the reverse die looks like it was about shot when this coin was made
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have read articles that these have often been faked in good quality gold. Unfortunately, beyond that I cannot offer a reasonable opinion, because I know so little about them.
It would be good to take this to a professional who is known to have considerable expertise in this area.
However, DON'T be discouraged!
Some simple tests can be done:
Exact weight, diameter, and a micrometer screw gauge measurement across the fields for minimum thickness, as well as rim thickness. These can be compared with a known genuine example.
With that information, density testing can be done.
XRF may help, but that test can only analyze for surface trace elements only. If genuine, the trace elements would reveal if it was made from 1849 / 50 gold, and give a clue to the refining methods and standards used at the time.
If it is more modern, the gold is likely to be more pure, and not reflect where the gold came from.
The damage and wear may hide the fact that is genuine OR fake.
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United States
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okay thanks, I'll have it sent to pcgs when I get a chance
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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steviegetz: That action in my opinion, would be a very good first step. Two benefits: You have a good opinion on authenticity. (It should be have another third party expert opinion as well. TPG's sometimes get it wrong, although rarely.) If genuine, you get it graded as well. Please post their results and opinions. We will all learn something. At least, I certainly will. |
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United States
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this is from a Goldberg auction, of a 1849 but has the same reverse the coin I posted, except the die cracks are identical, or show further progression, would someone really go into that much depth to copy all die breaks? and making sure the rim notches matched up percisely?  |
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