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Gold Byzantine- Worn, Bad Strike Of Fake?

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 Posted 02/12/2014  1:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Like this coin apart from the blank faces, other examples I have seen have more detail on faces,

What's your views, worn, stuck badly... or the F word?



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 Posted 02/12/2014  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 02/12/2014  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin I believe it's Romanus IV, with associate rulers Michale VII, Constantius and Androncius, also Eudocia SB 1859. What is interesting about the coin is that there looks like more wear on the reverse (cup) than the obverse. This is usually the other way around. It's a bit difficult to say for sure from the pictures if it's real or not. If it were me I'd be a little cautious about buying it.
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 Posted 02/12/2014  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

It looks ok by me, but I'm not a pro at these , but I do have one..
Byzantine Empire...
Romanus lV..Diogenes..1068-71..AD.
Av Histamenon..
Obv.Michael Vll in center,Contantius on left, Andronicus on right..
Rev. Christ Jesus standing on footstool wearing nimbus cross, crowning Romanus left, Eudocia on right, wearing loros and holding cross on globe between them.
IC-left and XC right..
Mint.Constantinople..
28 mm x4.45 g.

Gold-Byzantine--Worn,-Bad-Strike-Of-Fake?

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 Posted 02/14/2014  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can I have 1 more opinion on this one please? it is just about at a price I can afford and will go well with my other byzantine coin from the same period. I value echizento opinion, but I don't think he wrote it off, just cautious

It finishes in a couple of hours, so I'm 50/50 on it at the moment
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 Posted 02/14/2014  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the seller guarantees is and is prepared to take it back, then go for it and get it authenticated.
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 Posted 02/14/2014  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not going to take the chance, I have just looked through his feedback, although perfect feedback, it appears he has sold this coin about 5 times, although I think at least one pic is slightly different, he may be producing these?

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI...backAsSeller
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If you scroll back through his sold items on the feedback page, he has had negative feedback for coins not certified by NGC. His perfect rating is from the past 12 months.
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 Posted 02/14/2014  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good spot, can you get coins authenticated with CNG then?
What would be the recommended place out of CNG or D.sears?

I was going to get mine sent off to David at some point, but if cng do the same, they have a uk depot so would probably be safer and cheaper
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 Posted 02/14/2014  05:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On one of the recent threads, someone sent off an email and photo to David Sear and got a very quick reply to say that the coin was fake.

Edit: I think it was you!
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 Posted 02/14/2014  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that was me.

It was a little bit different, it was a coin that no one recognised but looked genuine, therefor it would have been easier to know if it was genuine (I think).

All the coins that I would like to get verified, are not unusual coins, all of which people here have thought look genuine and all tick the right boxes. But as you know, pictures don't always tell the whole story.

These are all coins I plan to keep and pass down to my little one, I would hate to think a fake slipped through and then one day he sold it without knowing, so this is why I plan to send to David to grade and authenticate.

I found it really good that he was happy to answer me in an email when he could have made some money with his official grading services, as I was willing to buy the coin and get it sent to him and pay for the service.
And for this reason, I would not abuse the option by keep sending emails to him.

There is so much wisdom and genuine people here, including yourself, who are not only happy to help, but enjoy helping. It feels an honour to be a part of it, I think if it wasn't for CCF, my hobby may have fizzled out but I am really enjoying it. Although now I think I may be addicted, and I don't think they do classes on kicking your coin addiction :)
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 Posted 02/14/2014  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CNG and Sears are reputable; in London (England) I would have no hesitation in asking opinions at the British Museum or Spink or Baldwins but there lots of other expert UK dealers in these coins.

It's not impossible to get a group of the same Roman or Byzantine gold coins.

Years ago, my father bought a group of 5 Phocas solidi from a hoard of about 40 - there were 3 obverse dies and 2 reverse dies between them.
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