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Battle Of Culloden Medals For Soldiers And Public?

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I recently sold my 1746 Battle of Culloden medal (seen here) and the buyer had a question I told her I would ask here about. From what she says:

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I recently read a book on this battle by John Prebble, a rather highly respected Scottish historian, and he mentions in his book that after the battle, King George commissioned these medals for all of the soldiers that participated in the battle.

Also, she read somewhere else that there was a version made available for public sale.

Christopher Eimer lists 7 (out of what he says are 10 total made with this battle as the subject) in his British Commemorative Medals book, and none mention being given to anyone or made available for sale. She's had no luck with Mr. Eimer, but I thought I'd check here in case one of our experts knew anything about it or had heard the same, or even may know where John Prebble may have gotten his information (he has unfortunately passed so we cannot ask him).

Thanks for any help.
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Over the last 2 years, I've seen about a dozen offered for sale, mostly at auction. Although, it's impossible to be sure, as I saw only one each time, they looked about the same state of preservation. A few might have been offered at a previous auction I saw, but all of them. One definitely was different, it had a hole in it.

I'm tempted by them as it's such an interesting design and my forebears fought on both sides !

I fear to buy one in case someone is churning them out and spreading them around the auctions.
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As far as these pinchbeck medals go, they were not made for official issue, they were made privately for sale to anyone interested that would like to buy one. These are similar in manufacture and material to the many varieties of Admiral Vernon medal that were made around the same time as the Culloden medals. Unfortunately pinchbeck medals rarely survive very well, and where a choice one turns up they do get a good premium.

I couldn't say for certain, but the medals most likely to have been issued at least semi officially would be Eimer 604, which were struck only in silver and Bronze, and to a quality that may have been officially issued.

Because he is well known, Chris Eimer gets a large amount of correspondence, and would spend half his life emailling if he responded to every question he gets - he is fairly approachable in person though, and attends most the UK coin fairs.
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Thanks, Jeff. I made an error above - he said there were 12 made (not 10).

He lists 604 in gold, silver and bronze. The only one listed struck in only silver and bronze is 610.

And he had replied to her - but did not know anything about the medals being issued for soldiers or for sale. He's always answered my emails, as well, especially when I was asking about the books he had available. I've never had a problem reaching him about other questions, although I do take care to only send questions I have researched to death and can't find elsewhere.

But from what you're saying - most, if not all, of these medals would have been struck and made available for public sale? And would the 610 then be the most likely the one semi-officially issued?
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