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 Posted 02/14/2014  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop is the man! Amazing amazing amazing
What does the opposite side show i....say the...reverse side? The collar rim side
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02/14/2014 9:56 pm
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 Posted 02/14/2014  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will try to post smaller pixel new Ike damaged coin.

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I did it !

What ever they are...
Here is one more.

Can't remember which monitor was helping me
anyway, you can see some other serious damage on this coin.

Did I discover new coin?
Did I discover a new coin ERROR category?
Hope so.

Want to add this,
It is my opinion this is the result of a capitalistic COLLAR failure. The hammer and anvil is just fine. Collar blew up, into itsy-bitsy peaces.

This coin was most likely the last coin to be pressed, with that collar, or total set of dies.

Fortunately, the coin fell into the bin ... and I now it is in my collection.

I counted 10-11 (APPROX) one millimeter sized hits into the REED area. The individual hits were jagged in nature.
The Striking pieces that hit the REED area were "sharp"

Thanks for all
Wish you could examine it in person, so you could apply all your skills to the task.
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 Posted 02/14/2014  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SsupperDdave,


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I'm not ready to dismiss the Ike you posted out-of-hand; all the vectors I can think of capable of causing what it looks like seem that they'd cause obvious collateral damage elsewhere on the coin.


While I was posting my last post, sorry I could not remember your handle.

If I went back into the general post to find you name, I would have lost all my work. Oh well.

As far as sharp multiple hits to the reed area ... I may have 3-4 more ikes, to a lesser degree. In that category.

The mystery to me is, how did I discover this many Eisenhower messed up coins?

Only thingI know is that I look for them ... just after the silver is in the pot.
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 Posted 02/15/2014  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is damage as a result of the counters they use for Eisenhowers. I see them with some frequency.
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 Posted 02/15/2014  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is damage as a result of the counters they use for Eisenhowers. I see them with some frequency.






I respectively disagree.
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This 71-D has a collar that goes ALL around obverse, not quite so reverse...reeding shows lack of details, left side, but, no major "shift"..opinions welcomed!

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 Posted 03/06/2014  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice coin

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 Posted 03/06/2014  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ilikeikes.............


More pictures PLEASE!!
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 Posted 03/06/2014  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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results in the exposed part of the planchet failing to become reeded, and expanding to a wider diameter than the contained, reeded portion


I lifted these photos from your ebay Domain555.

The reeded portion should have a wider diameter than the flat spot.

EDIT: Oops I said that backwards.




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03/06/2014 11:02 pm
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Lincolnguy..................




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I lifted these photos from your ebay Domain555.

The reeded portion should have a wider diameter than the flat spot.


From memory ... did I sell the one in your PICs?



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This is one of my best in (what ever it is called ...what ever class of coins)

Jury is still out on the matter.

Many, (maybe most) here believe it is PMD...

...What ever it is/was .. I did in fact turn down $100 ... on This coin.

Foolish me ... ?
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 Posted 04/07/2014  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SsupperDdave...........


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I'm not ready to dismiss the Ike you posted out-of-hand; all the vectors I can think of capable of causing what it looks like seem that they'd cause obvious collateral damage elsewhere on the coin.


It has been a few days after we had this thread going.

I posted another coin with more collateral damage showing on Feb 14, 2014.

If it is your pleasure, please look at the 2-14-14 coin as well as the thread related coin ... and make your thoughts known.

Thank you in advance.

May I please add my opinions about the possibility of a coin counter doing this? After a few bags of Ikes ... no more (working) counter.

I have several coins like this. But mostly to a lesser or much lesser degree of damage to the Ike. They all came in one bag. IMHO, the bag was a DUMP from a collector to a bank. The bag was taped and re-taped closed. But there was a Morgan and a Peace and other AU.

Lots of mysteries for me.
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any metal movement inside of the reeding? If so it is coin damage. a close up should reveal if there is metal between the reeding. A real partial collar won't have that.
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The rim should not be reduced but should extend out to the rim. Note the example above. How the reeding ends and the outside diameter is wider than the reeding. I'm not seeing that on your coin.
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Stop touching the coins with your bare hands! Oil from your hands can lead to permanent finger prints on the coin. If it is worth $150, do you really want to be handling it like that? IF/when I do buy on ebay I immediately stop looking at the listing if I see pics from the seller with the coin in their bare hands. Also, if you must handle with bare hands, it's best to only handle the rim.
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 Posted 04/08/2014  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trent...........


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Stop touching the coins with your bare hands! Oil from your hands can lead to permanent finger prints on the coin. If it is worth $150, do you really want to be handling it like that? IF/when I do buy on ebay I immediately stop looking at the listing if I see pics from the seller with the coin in their bare hands. Also, if you must handle with bare hands, it's best to only handle the rim.


Thank you kindly for you sage advise.

These pics were shot as a newbie on this form.

I have been instructed by my betters.

I now use Powder free Nitrile exam gloves.

Thanks again.
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trent...............


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Stop touching the coins with your bare hands! Oil from your hands can lead to permanent finger prints on the coin. If it is worth $150, do you really want to be handling it like that? IF/when I do buy on ebay I immediately stop looking at the listing if I see pics from the seller with the coin in their bare hands. Also, if you must handle with bare hands, it's best to only handle the rim.


The coin in question ... I had listed at $140 ... Not $150 ... with best offer available.

I did get an offer of $100 ... I counter offered at $135. The results was ... NO SALE.

Silly me?
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