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Fake Bosnian Notes

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 Posted 07/13/2007  3:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have recently noticed a dramatic increase in the number of Bosnian banknotes of questionable authenticity appearing on ebay. I have done a little research as to the detection of these notes, and from the little communications I have had with other advanced collectors, it appears these notes are originating from within Bosnia itself.

The notes in question are listed as P#6-9, the 2nd provisional issues.

Comparing notes from my own collection (both authentic & questionable), along with images from reputable dealers as well as those marketing the questionable notes, I have determined a fairly obvious design difference that makes it quite easy to distinguish them.



First, we have a note that is probably the most common of all of this series, which I purchased from a reputable dealer and am quite certain of its originality.

Fake-Bosnian-Notes

Notice the 2 squares that I have added (via PhotoShop).
#1. The tip of the wing of the dove is drawn out into a long single-stroke point.
#2. The hachek on the C in "Novcani" is rather flat and wide.
#3. (not shown) The R in "SERIES M" on the reverse has an almost vertical right leg.

Next, we compare the above points to one of the "questionable" notes.


Fake-Bosnian-Notes
#1. The tip of the wing has a much more blunt point.
#2. The hachek is much more angled.
#3. The right leg is at an obvious angle.


I have determined that these characteristics are common throughout the whole series.

*Note, I do not claim that these notes are counterfeit, only that they are questionable, as it is accepted that these notes are not found in UNC condition, as many of the "questionable" notes appearing on ebay are. The going prices for these "questionable" notes often run in the $3-10 range, while the authentic notes from reputable dealers often sell in the $35-60 range. I do own a few of these "questionable" notes, and will probably attempt to get a complete set of both the "questionable" and authentic notes.
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07/13/2007 3:25 pm
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 Posted 07/16/2007  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info - is it also pertinent that the right wing tip is further away from the "N" in the fake?
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 Posted 07/16/2007  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
is it also pertinent that the right wing tip is further away from the "N" in the fake?


Yes, you are correct. There also several other minor discrepancies, such as the pointing of the geometric design with the "500", on the right. If you look at the original, the lower right peak points to the left leg of the "N" in "DINARA", while on the "questionable", it points to the right leg.

One other feature I have discovered about these "questionable" notes: the serial numbers all start with either 79xxxx or 80xxxx. This pattern is repeated on the ebay auctions from several sellers in the US, Bosnia, and even Argentina.
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 Posted 07/17/2007  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw this "pointing but I put it down to the way the notes had been layed down at different angles..but if these are both straight, I would say the whole of the fake note is too 'perfect' geometrically - asides from the fact it is fainter in general.

If they're starting with the same two digits then that seems to indicate it's all coming from the same original batch?

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 Posted 08/12/2007  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Important info. Thanks.
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