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 Posted 02/21/2014  2:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-2564930/Rare-qkew-50p-coins-selling-180-ebay.html

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 Posted 02/21/2014  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electric Daveyland to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is insane - I came in to the forum earlier to get some info on £2 coins and spotted the original link to this 50p story. Having checked ebay I have since put one of the Kew coins on a 24 hour listing starting at 99p. It has 16 hours to go and is already £40!
The story has even been mentioned on BBC.
I have 8 of these coins and probably spent £40 in total on them, in fact I found 2 in my change a couple of years ago.
I don't think I've ever seen anything so bizarre in the Coin World!
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 Posted 02/21/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaytR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't think I've ever seen anything so bizarre in the Coin World!


Its amazing, all heck has broken loose, its like Bedlam on ebay ! A huge number of those coins have suddenly been listed since yesterday - I doubt there is that many left in circulation - if any are still out there will be gone before the end of the year ...
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 Posted 02/21/2014  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand that the mint wants to make people more interested in coins, and having "rare" coins can help people, and getting free advertising for them, but it also seems to make coin collecting a little less accessible for people who just want to collect in a cheap way, like kids and things like that.

I don't have one of these, and now it looks like I never will.
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 Posted 02/22/2014  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This same fuss happened with the dateless 20p from 2008.

My suggestion:
If you want to sell, sell now.
If you want to buy, wait a while until the hysteria dies down.
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 Posted 02/22/2014  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


The dateless 20p have never made it back to the £250 they were selling at at one point. Just to put these into perspective, the dateless 20p has perhaps a mintage of 200,000 (max) according to the mint, these 50p have a mintage of 210,000 plus all the mint sets (unlimited mintage) and 100,000 (?) proof sets.....
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 Posted 02/22/2014  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, clearly someone or quite a few people are making a killing out of this. You have to wonder how many the person who made the statement has/had and how much money they've made out of it.
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 Posted 02/22/2014  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
new coins are not appealing to me, so I won't be rushing out to buy any... but I sure will keep an eye out for them in my change
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 Posted 02/22/2014  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thasquizza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought this for £12.50 off ebay few weeks ago as it was no secret only 210,000 where made its on The Royal Mint website, I've listed it back on ebay as like the poster somewhere above said the value will go crazy as its been in the paper , a few weeks later I will buy it back for £12.50 again probably...I hope lol
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 Posted 02/22/2014  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Another really rare modern issue. Reminds me of Russia's Chechnya coin... sadly Canada has yet to experience a really good bout of commemorative hysteria. Part of me wonders if this low mintage was a deliberate ploy to make well-meaning Brits hang on to every commemorative coin they find, not just this one.
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 Posted 02/23/2014  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaytR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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it was no secret only 210,000 where made its on The Royal Mint website


good point and looking through those figures you can easily spot which commemorative coins sell for profit or will sell for profit in years to come for example the 2002 commonwealth games 2 pound coins are now commanding a very decent profit .....


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Part of me wonders if this low mintage was a deliberate ploy to make well-meaning Brits hang on to every commemorative coin they find, not just this one.


because looking at the numbers of commemorative coins issued for circulation recently they are in way lower numbers than commemorative coins from 10 years ago (some of which can still be easily found today in circulation) ....I guess The Royal Mint is happy people will start to take more notice of coins
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 Posted 02/23/2014  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint makes money from people buying coins, it doesn't make much money from people collecting them from circulation. But because they circulate they are more collectible as coins, but reduce the mintage and get the hype and hysteria and get the free publicity.

Though I think they intended 3 million of each Olympic coin, and only produced 1 million at most, probably because of the economic situation. So that plays a part.
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 Posted 02/23/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, my new theory is that the mintmaster has socked away a couple thousand and is just waiting for his chance to unload them all and retire somewhere sunny.
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 Posted 02/25/2014  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liberty1966 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think all that happened was The Royal Mint launched folders called the Great British Coin Hunt at end of 2013 and one of those was for 50p 's of which the Kew Garden one is to only rare one. I picked up 3 for the kids at £8 each for Christmas and baulked at that at the time. Lucky did it soon as came out! Guess the next one will be the £2 Northern Ireland Flag version of the Commonwealth Games one for that £2 folder, currently £15 but perhaps less will collect them as 30x£2 is a bit more uncommon as figure most will do 50ps on back of the Olympic 2011 folder and possibly £1 coins only. Expect a lot of complaints that got the England flag as very similar for novices that these folders attract
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 Posted 02/25/2014  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, mints can make money from folks collecting coins from circulation.

The term for this is called seigniorage. Seigniorage arises from the difference between the face value of the coins and the cost to produce and distribute them.

Add to this the profit from selling the four different albums and the completer medallions.

These folks also get added to the Royal Mints marketing lists and some of these folks will buy other items from The Royal Mint.
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