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 Posted 02/27/2014  2:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
To start, I'm VERY new to this, both coin collecting and photography. I was just wondering the opinions out there about weather it is necessary to use a post process on my pictures to post on the site? I would like to post the best pictures I can so all the detail and color can come out to show the coins and get the best opinions on them, (mostly die/error stuff at the moment).

I have been playing around with lighting and the like but can't seem to get the true image I can see with my eyes. Would using an editor help this and if so, any suggestions on which to use, ( and No, , I can't even THINK about getting something like Photo shop ).

Thank you in advance.



P.S. I am currently only using a digital scope with the Lighthouse stand that Harry has a thread on. Thanks Harry.

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 Posted 02/27/2014  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I usually just post as-is, and I know I need to get better lighting too.

But I have played with the Free Image Optimizer, on the settings that say '(-100 to +1,000)' I go by big steps, I'll try -100 then +100, trying to change it a small amount can get confusing and annoying, so go for big swings and come down or up from there.

Also you might have luck with changing the camera settings.
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 Posted 02/28/2014  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Postprocessing is usually necessary to get the best compromise between image size and filesize for posting. Obviously you want to show the biggest image you can - within reason - but the only way you can post really large images without taxing the bandwidth of an Internet connection is to postprocess to lower levels of Quality.

The CCF Optimizer works well, but you have to be knowledgeable of the concepts of psotprocessing to maximize its' capabilities. Unfortunately, there's no free lunch here; you have to acquire capabilities in the postprocessing realm to maximize the quality of your image postings.

The tradeoff you've accepted for the inexpensive equipment you're using is a narrow "sweet spot" of quality. It's going to be tougher for you to achieve excellence than it would be for someone who spent big bucks on bespoke equipment, and you're going to have to be more capable in post as a result. Yes, you can help image quality a lot in post, with the requisite knowledge. But washed-out or (to a lesser extent) underexposed detail isn't coming back, so you have to maximize the potential of your lighting as well. It's a complex relationship, and I'd be remiss if I implied that it's "easy."

The top of the heap for postprocessing software for those of us who don't have a lot of discretionary income is the Gimp. It's free, and has capabilities on par with the most complex software out there. But it ain't easy. Quality and software capability are on a sliding scale with an inverse relationship to complexity; how good do you want your imagery?
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Thank you for the response's.

Is Gimp the full name of the software you where referring to? I'll have to give it a go. I have been using the optimizer here to post my pictures so far.

It seems this new hobby of coin collecting is leading to another hobby.

I have a capable computer I believe, running windows os 7 with a couple graphics cards set up for SLI right now. So I will have to give it a try.
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Gimp's the full name, usually called "the Gimp." It's Open Source, and Google will direct you nicely. As regards processing hardware, it'll be more CPU- and RAM-intensive than GPU, but if your system's got the guts to run SLI you're in good shape.

I'd advise using offsite hosting as opposed to CCF's Optimizer for larger image postings; once you get up into the range of 600+ pixels in diameter (we recommend 800px if you can achieve that sharply) it becomes a bit laborious to get a nice image. Not impossible, but you've got to carefully play with Quality in both your own postprocessing and the Optimizer. Photobucket is a decent host, and xshift wrote a nice tutorial for posting from that site:

https://goccf.com/t/53146
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Thank you
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