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When would you take a coin to get Certified?
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There are a lot of schools of thought on this. One of them is economic: if the cost to get it slabbed does not increase the resale cost by at least the cost of the submission fee and insurance, then it is not worth it. Some have a dollar figure in mind (i.e. if will not sell for more that $250, do not slab it).

Another one is regarding authenticity. The cost is irrelevant if the purpose is to have something authenticated. I am a very conservative purchaser, if I thought I needed to send in a coin for authentication, I would not purchase it raw. I also tend to prefer my coins raw so the only time I tend to purchase slabs are if it is something I am not comfortable authenticating myself or the cost of coin is what I would have paid for it without the slab (and then they are usually freed).

Excellent question! I look forward to other CCFers comments.
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Excellent question! I look forward to other CCFers comments.


There will be many, but probably no improvements on the first.
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With both post.
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Thanks guys! I think my statement is a testament to the education I received on CCF!
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Kelly nailed it, but I would also sentimental value to that list. Theres plenty of coins that have been slabbed for protection that are special to people and often times their favorite even though it makes no sense from a purely financial standpoint.
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Basebal, great point. "Been there and done that". Bought a few sentimental value coins myself.
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...but I would also sentimental value to that list.
I would not. All of my coins have sentimental value, but none of them are in slabs. Just how I see it. Do not hate.

I would never send a coin in to be certified. However, I do see value in buying a certified coin for the purpose of supplementing authentication. Of course, said certified coin will be cracked out soon after money changes hands.
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I'd like to add that I've sent coins in before to preserve the toning. Seems weird but even a brilliant rainbow toned coin can turn black over time. Here's an example of what I would consider:
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I'd like to add that I've sent coins in before to preserve the toning.


Won't work. Slabs aren't air-tight; if your toning hasn't changed, it's more because of the atmosphere you're preserving them in than the slab. There are a couple people notorious for artificially toning coins in TPG slabs.
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Allow me to add another consideration from an experienced collector who does indeed 'slab' certain coins ...

I have a passionate interest in low-ball coins ... my collecting spirit is simply drawn to the honestly circulated examples of coins that have served well in our nations commerce ...

As such I have sought these out across many series ... most notably the classic silver commemorative series of 50 type coins.

All of my 46 examples are PCGS certified ... and there are a few that are likely barely worth the certification cost ..

Key is that I am personally pleased with the collection and the cost ... so it works for me.

The absolute best attribute of the CCF is that we accept all views of collecting ... and despite my admittedly unorthodox set ... it is welcome here.

David
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Also add this: as a check on your abilities. I *think* I've learned how to grade circulated coins in series X and am pretty sure these are all EFs. For a modest fee the TPG will validate my eye - show me one that's unexpectedly AU and which were cleaned, etc. Call it tuition in the school of hard knocks.

FYI the AU coin was an I Can't Grade slab that the dealer broke out because he was embarrassed by the grade assigned - we had a side bet on EF45 vs AU50. I lost (but also then won :-))
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I would also send in a coin that may be a rare (but undervalued) variety..
For example: I plan on sending a 1916-d Barber quarter (Purchased for $5, about g-4) in for certification, because it is a Large D/ Small D. This coin is probably worth $5-$10 but because PCGS only has 9 of these certified, and heritage has under 10 of these in its vast array of 1916-D Quarters that have been auctioned off, I plan on sending it in.
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I never have, and have no plan to.
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Key is that I am personally pleased with the collection and the cost ... so it works for me.
Very important to note. Our opinions are formed by personal preference; what makes us happy. Use our opinions to help you with your decision, but remember it is your decision. Whatever you decide, you only have to justify it to yourself and no one else.
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Today so many are what I've termed as slab happy. Some people have coins slabbed that it is obvious that the slabbing cost more than the coin is worth. I've seen coins I'd say are worth one dollar in slabs. I've purchased some coins in slabs but as soon as I get into my garage, out hey come. I collect coins, not plastic. I really can't see having a pile of coins that take up so much room due to being in a slab.
However, there are so many that mainly only have slabs. And that is why this is a fun habby. Anyone can and does do what they want.
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