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Valued Member
Canada
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Items found similar to "PRESALE CANADA 20 Murano Glass FROG Pure Silver Coin aft Bumblebee Butterfly" :( Was the listing removed ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If Mint will increase the mintage, let's say to 15.000, than everyone could enjoy the coin without "flippers".
This is not circulation coin, and do not suppose to be "rare".
As commems wrote about mintage of Silver Dollars - hundreds thousands, and people were happy to own one.
Probably the amount of collectors will decrease, cause they use to subsidize their collections by elementary speculation on the coins, and playing on the lack of knowledge of buyers... Its a two edged sword. A higher mintage will make people who could not get them because they were all bought by flippers happy. But a higher mintage will devalue the coin in the long run. I doubt the sellers are preying on the ignorance of buyers. Most people are not as dumb as you think. It is a more a function of supply and demand. Because the demand far outstripped the supply, a seller can demand high prices. Edited by MoneyPenney
03/07/2014 12:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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MoneyPenney, you correct - in general it just me - every time I tell to myself that it is just other side of the collecting, but it comes to me again  the demand for extremely high prices is possible, when the shortage of supply occurs. Real shortage or artificial one. |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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It is a more a function of supply and demand. Because the demand far outstrip the demand supply, a seller can demand high prices. This is true. However, in the case of many recent RCM NCLT coins, the lack of supply was artificial and the result of a fairly large volume of speculative purchases with the intent of quick resale vs. purchases by collectors. This has created short-term spikes in prices in the months following the release of certain coins, but for most it has not been long lasting - supply and demand soon find their equilibrium point for most RCM releases. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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darn. I missed it. Does anyone have a picture they can e-mail me? lol...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You didn't miss anything. It was a picture of a frog on a lily pad and a pink flower. The ad says 'actual design to be released early April' Actually, if you search ebay on coins & paper money for completed listing and 'glass frog', you can still see the summary of the listing. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote:This is true. However, in the case of many recent RCM NCLT coins, the lack of supply was artificial and the result of a fairly large volume of speculative purchases with the intent of quick resale vs. purchases by collectors. This has created short-term spikes in prices in the months following the release of certain coins, but for most it has not been long lasting - supply and demand soon find their equilibrium point for most RCM releases. You mean like the commissioned Bald Eagle Coins last year and the Bison coins this year. Those coins sold out so quickly that even some MC members could not get them. Last week, the 2nd Bison coin was "awaiting stock" as soon as it was openned to MC members. As it turned out, none of these coins are doing that well on ebay. Edited by MoneyPenney
03/07/2014 12:02 am
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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You mean like the commissioned Bald Eagle Coins last year and the Bison coins this year. Coins commissioned by private dealers are a different deal. You've been around long enough to know they are different. I'm surprised you would use them as an example to counter my statement. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Coins commissioned by private dealers are a different deal. You've been around long enough to know they are different. I'm surprised you would use them as an example to counter my statement.
Actually I am using those two examples to support your argument that the shortage of supply was artificial. There was no shortage because they were bought by one company. |
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What do you mean the eagle series is not doing so well just because you cannot get 100% ROI for them. I have sold quite a few of them in different places and the best sales have been for the first one in the series and it sells for $150 or better. The new series will be the same just have to give it time.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@MoneyPenney: I apologize for misunderstanding your comment. I agree, the RCM's commissioned coins really do create a different "demand" model that can sometimes be misleading. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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What do you mean the eagle series is not doing so well just because you cannot get 100% ROI for them. I have sold quite a few of them in different places and the best sales have been for the first one in the series and it sells for $150 or better. The new series will be the same just have to give it time The first coin may be doing well but as a set of 4 they are doing poorly. The completed auctions for a set of 4 coins in the last month are $373, $378, $437, $449. After ebay fees, the return is negative since we are looking at less than $400 a set or less than $100 a coin. For the $373 set, we are looking at $324 or $81 per coin. |
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Most people don't buy the whole set at the same time only individual coins. And that's what happens when you have auctions you take a chance on the final price always list buy it now and you control the price those people that sold low are just in to much of a hurry to sell that's why. Everybody had bad things to say about the first coin(chicken head)but suprise that seems to be the best selling one of the group.
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Canada
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Canada Murano Glass Frog has a total mintage of 12,500 and will be on sale Tuesday April 01 from what I have read
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Posted 03/06/2014 8:50 pm
