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Morgan Silver Dollars - Some Quick Questions About Grading

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Can someone show me the difference between MS and MS Proof like?

I ask because I came across some old coins today that are in the highest quality I've ever seen for coins their age. The backgrounds are so mirror-like and the details so crisp that I'm simply awestruck by these coins. These aren't whizzed coins either. I've seen whizzed coins and these are not. They more closely resemble what my W minted ASE would look like if I carried it around in my pocket for a week.

But I digress. Bring on the education.

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Prooflike coins are struck by fresh, newly-shined dies. Prooflike coins are not proof, however. What coins are you talking about? Most coins don't have a "prooflike" grade.
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The specific coins I saw were 1881 S Morgan dollars.

As for the examples, thank you. The coins I saw didn't have the frosted look that these coins have on the foreground.

I'm thinking they are simply very high grade MS coins. I still cannot get past that mirror-like background on them though. The detail is amazing.

Here is the story. A pawn shop had an old guy bring in a roll of these. I got to cherry pick the best two out of the roll for $50 each. I normally would not have paid $50 for a 1881 S but you simply have to see these. I may post pics later. Feeling lazy right now and don't want to fool with the camera.
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The first few hundred coins struck from a new die will usually be what we consider as prooflike.
There are several different degrees of prooflike coin grading:
- Satin-like
- Semi-prooflike
- Prooflike
- Deep mirror prooflike
From what you're describing to me, those coins sound almost like proofs. Based on that, I can assume they're deep mirror prooflikes. Any pictures?
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