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Ebay Fraud Proof 1927 Florin

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 Posted 03/21/2014  12:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harveytwoface to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Came across this ad from a dodgy seller beware http://www.ebay.com/itm/12128203213....m1423.l2649 the seller is hallofame.gift full of false details. I messaged him and have added our correspondence for entertainment purposes, absolutely hilarious.
Dear hallofame.coingift,
Most ridiculous description ever... Where is your proof there are only 3 or 4 of the proof 1927 parliament florin in existence? This is an outright lie!

will am a lair how you know,,because I mange to have this coin and you not its only 2 on ebay all of it this one of them they was 200 and the survive only few that's all ..you must be the one with 20 feed back..know a lot more that some one have 30 sit and this is the smallest one in them.of all of them...i know you can`t afford to just look at it ..do not heat me heat the game.

learn proper English. You are a liar because there were 400 1927 proof parliament coins minted not the 200 you suggest (see bluesheet). coinworks (an actual reputable dealer states the mintage at 400 so do both Australian coin collecting guides being Mcdonalds and rennicks, I can provide a link if you want. you are a liar because you say that if you buy this coin you will be one of two or three people to own this coin as there are only a few in existence... this is not a rare coin in australia but scarce. An ebay feedback score doesn't mean anything in regards to my knowledge of coins. How would you know if I have one of these coins? (which I actually do). there are many other sources to buy coins (downies, noble, iag, coin dealers, shows and private collectors). you also have no idea of Australian grading by the sounds of it, I base this on your pictures and your grading of a/unc. Australian grading is different and harsher than American grading system used by ngc and pcgs.

ou whats your problem do you think am your mom boy friend or something ..you do not have to buy a crap from sit .why am your problem go find out who pout the grass in top of your butt ...am English Arabic or this is my problem am Spanish its my problem am any way happy as hill french or Italian too its my problem its not your`s and please have respect to your self and you do not have to contact me in my sit..ok fag......or I will contact ebay to suspend all your account...what kind low life are you people.

don't insult mine or others intelligence with your lies. I call you a liar based on fact. you have no evidence to back up your claims regarding this coin. lying seems to be your game and trying to make a quick buck. you are a scumbag your ad and response are quite humorous. humorous means funny in case your wondering. have fun scumbag I have facts, you have lies and insults. does it make you feel good being a lying scumbag? a man would at least admit when they have been caught out. I wouldn't buy your scrappy looking proof if it is a proof, I like quality coins :l..

you like to tell me you have a dollar or 2 and you feel like you own the world....its very good for you ...go on vacation go get a girlfriend go have a life have family do something good with life of your`s it do not mean a crap to no one,,go live your low life enjoy your life stupid..do not bother people simply because they a lot more and I mean it a lot more butter than you ........am not going to make you buy any thing from my sit,,,..............my 926 feed back with 100% buyer satisfactions,,,,i do not get this because I have scrappy coco ...because I get the goooooodez,,lol am not sorry at all to block such freak like you ...hahahahahahahahahahahah

hahaha you're responses are hilarious. feedback can be faked yours probably is because you are a liar. if you were genuine and not a fraud you would have answered the questions but you can't as I am right hahaha. pcgs has graded 6 1927 Canberra proof florins I wonder how many ngc have graded... according to your ad they must be wrong also. report me, your emails are laced with profanities and your ad full of lies. haha why so defensive? sounds like you need a holiday. all you have done is react like a 5 year old girl because everything I have stated is true and based on fact but a 5 year old can't comprehend that :)

I do not have toooooooooooo....am retire what about you ,,going to school lol..am already enjoying my lie I travel all over the planet are you .i do not speck or writ any language because I do not need it any more ..i have my own 18 house and my h2 and in my kid birthday 18 I buy her mustang brand new ,in my privet crag ..and am very very very veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy happy with my life .ps...have houses in 3 different state ..and am building a tower ..if you work all your life you can`t have ...or own a brick in it .....you see I really do not give one f f .about you or about who.u .r .or your opinion it mean nudda nothing zielsh 000000`s.cabich.chtupido.....u just a very tinny weeny low life..and if I can`t hear you ,,when am walking I may step on you ..lol.....ps,,,watch out from my wallet because if I close it I may crash you with it ..its in American old saying..i know you..i swarm I know you and I do not have to even 2nd Guss you be surprise..

haha I bet you are enjoying your lie and how is that Lego tower going? my nephew likes to build towers and houses out of Lego too. just more words and lies from a liar who lacks the ability to even construct a proper sentence. if you actually have a daughter I am sure she will or would be ashamed by her illiterate and fraudulent father. you're delusional you have nothing. I bet you're going to say you have been to Jupiter next, you're a fool.

you obviously do care about my opinion as you keep on replying. I am smarter than you, keep making yourself look stupid it's quite entertaining.



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 Posted 03/21/2014  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harveytwoface to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the ad details I thought it was amusing more for the responses everyone should troll this fu##AUSTRALIA 1927 1 Florin Parliament House Silver AU-UNC++++++++proof#1.to.3/OR/4..suppose 200..but no survived but 3 or maybe 4.the most ,,,ALL I CAN SAY YOU WILL BE ONE OF 2 OR MAYBE 3 HAVE THIS COIN IN THE HALL WORLD..

IN THIS PIC YOU SEE THE PROOF ONE AND THE UN PROOF ONE THE 2 OF THEM IS ALMOST , SAME GRADE ,,BUT THE UN PROOF IS EXF+++AND THE PROOF IS AUNC/UNC,,,YOU BUY THE PROOF YOU GET THE OTHER COIN UN PROOF FREE.

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 Posted 03/21/2014  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PawnS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. You have titantic nerve telling him to use proper English. Your post reads like a 4 year old wrote it.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 03/21/2014  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harveytwoface to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're missing the point if you think it's about English skills, grammar or spelling. It's about a seller blatantly lying to make a quick buck. I found it all quite amusing. If someone was to buy this coin they would end up quite dissapointed. The sellers responses are quite humorous and the sales tactics are appalling. Would you be happy if you purchased this coin based on the description provided? He makes out their are only 2 or 3 in existence a mintage of 200 with all but a handful destroyed. The seller has straight away resorted to insults and is clueless. I added some not all of the correspondence as some people may find it humourous like I have.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The owner of this coin is in no danger of selling it unless
he buys it himself.It looks as though it's been cleaned with steel
wool.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow I trawled through his feed back. A faker account I could not find. for instance he has someone who uses the same broken "engwish" grammar and has 30 feed back themselves has left well over 30 feedback for him.
this guy is a plain fraudster, ebay needs to shut this guy down
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 Posted 03/21/2014  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's about a seller blatantly lying to make a quick buck.

That's ebay for you. I bet I can find 50 more examples within the hour probably. Report them if applicable if not just hope some newbie doesn't get burned bad. Personally I am a lot more worried about someone who is happy when they receive the coin. it will be a while down the road they realize they got had and the guy is gone with their money. if they realize as soon as they get it they can still do something about it.

I once had a guy who obviously didn't have a coin as it was listed by another seller tell me over and over it wasn't the same coin even though the slab number was identical. Normally I don't interact with them but I figured what the heck and who knows its in theory possible he really did have the coin and the other guy forgot to take it down off ebay after selling it to the guy on another venue. after that was ruled out he was reported and that is all she wrote.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A genuine Proof Canberra florin Does have raised lines in the fields due to the die being touched up with a wire brush.
The sellers coin however has the lines going in the wrong angle on the coin and the lines continue into the design.
This IS a DELIBERATE attempt to defraud using PMD to try and emulate a Genuine Proof Canberra florin.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a proof strike.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  03:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellyflorin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Damit , my offer of $3 was rejected , the muppet doesn't post to oz.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has the coin been removed yet? It has been wrongly described.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  05:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the members on here has a signature that sums this up ''don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience''. Another funny one I think it's also Mark Twain ''Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference''.

I'm not taking a dig at you, but I'd advise to not engage people like this who are the original wind up merchants. I had one who threatened to use my address and come to my family home, usually you can tell alot about these types of people just by the words they use and the pattern of thought they possess. Be the bigger man just report it and don't rise to these people, they're not worth it mate.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys it makes me scared to buy a coin of ebay, I seem very hesitant since my bad experience and now this , wow 10,000 dollar fake , that has just got to be against the law even if they don't know its a fake its still 2nd degree fraud. I seen a nice gold sovereign but I read that a lot of those are fakes to on ebay.

I don't know how to take all this fraudulent activity on ebay I thought it all got cleaned up. It appears not.

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 Posted 03/21/2014  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harveytwoface to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My baiting of him was more for my own amusement, it was better than day time television. I wasn't going to go as far as to say it wasn't a proof as I'm not an expert on telling the difference. I reported his abusive emails and ebay has said they will speak to the seller. I have just now also reported the listing for being misleading and fraudulent. Hopefully ebay does something of substance.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harveytwoface to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Item was previously available for worldwide postage including Australia now only available in the USA. At least my fellow Australians are now safe from making a huge mistake especially the new collectors.
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