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Questions On Getting Coins Posted From The USA To Aus

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 Posted 03/13/2014  9:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone hope you are all going well
Just need some help in terms of getting ancient coins posted from the US to AUS firstly will USPS ship it even tho they state that they won't ship any coins to Australia?

Secondly just in terms of purchasing from Heritage Auctions could someone walk me through the process of getting them here like postal services, tiers, customs documents?

Lastly would anyone have a clue as to how much shipping would be?

Thanks everyone for your help really appreciate it in advance
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 Posted 03/13/2014  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've had plenty of coins sent from the US and sometimes marked as
a medal or token instead of a coin and usually at a cost of somewhere
between $8 and $30.Couldn't tell you much about Heritage sorry
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 Posted 03/13/2014  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah,USPS package with tracking is around US$22 but you can fit a lot of coins in.Only thing I don't like is the value displayed on the green customs form stuck on the outside.Main Coin dealers buy postage online so the customs declaration is white which is a bit less conspicous,just get the sender to list coins as tokens or"numismatic items" and they clear US customs with no problems.
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03/13/2014 10:30 pm
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 Posted 03/14/2014  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought from HA before (from an acution) and it was held by customs until I paid GST. They will clearly indicate the total for customs so if its above the threshold you will have to pay tax. For shipping - I emailed them through the website and they ammended my order.
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 Posted 03/14/2014  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help everyone. Onedollarmule you wouldn't happen to know if they include buyers premium in the declared value?
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 Posted 03/14/2014  05:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The threshold is AUD$1000 (total price)before you pay GST.Over that you pay and under you
don't.I found out the hard way
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03/14/2014 05:11 am
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 Posted 03/14/2014  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks stevo just found that out but thanks for confirming. Question is if they include buyers premium in the GST calculations? and how to they calculate the GST when it's value is declared in US dollars?
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 Posted 03/14/2014  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buyers premium is included as that is what you paid for it and you
pay the GST as a percentage of Australian dollars as it is an
Australian import duty
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 Posted 03/14/2014  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay thanks Stevo I was just confused a bit about it all.
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 Posted 03/15/2014  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eric to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is GST on second-hand goods. This is not a grey area.

Eric
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 Posted 03/15/2014  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Eric, your comment prompted me to re-investigate the relevant tax law, and it appears you are correct, second hand goods do attract GST from sellers registered for GST.

As such, I have removed my previous comment, as it reflected a now redundant position that I have had to review.

It is clearer now that there are two classifications when it comes to coins:
1. Bullion (gold, silver, platinum), no numismatic value above bullion value - does not attract GST (precious metals exemption).
2. Numismatic or of collectible value - does attract GST

The relevant document can be found here:

http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.h...AT/ATO/00001

Imports over $1,000, GST is collected by customs on the way in to AU, regardless whether the seller is registered for GST or not.

Once again, thank you for prompting me to re-investigate.

Regards,

Tim Bowden
TDK APDC

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03/15/2014 11:50 am
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 Posted 03/21/2014  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the only trouble I've had getting coins from USA to Oz was when the seller insisted on using a private courier.
Twice, FedEx got my coin to Sydney, but couldn't find Darwin. I think they gave it to Tom HANKS to look after.
In the end, the seller reluctantly agreed to use USPS and it was here in five days, and less expensive too.

But there's a trick with USPS - "First class" is cheaper and quicker than "Express".
Express takes about a month - seriously !
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