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Silly 2009 Cent Question

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How many possible variations of the 2009 are there and what would there be? For some reason I'm thinking there were more than just 12 (4P, 4D, and 4Proof). Where there any types of special proofs or variations of proofs that year?
(I'm not referring to doubling varieties/extra fingers/etc)

I ask because I wastrying to think back to a CCF members posting a couple years ago where he took all these coins, put them in a blank Dansco page, and then labeled them very neatly with a label maker. Unfortunately I haven't been able to search for it. From what I remember I thought he had more than just 12 coins. Perhaps he also had all the variations of the 2008 and 2010 cents as well to show the entire transition of the Lincoln Cent and that's what I'm thinking of?

If my question was expanded to years 2008 though 2010 would there be more than 18 coins? 2008(3), 2009(12), and 2010(3) or is that it?

Thanks.
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The Proof Set coins and Mint Set coins used the original bronze composition while business strikes used the standard composition so that would be a total of 20 different 2009s.
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Thanks bio. I'm glad I'm not loosing it. So I'm clear, when you're saying proofs and mint sets using bronze, are you meaning 95% copper composition while the business strikes were Zincolns?

I'm thinking it would be fun to piece this set together in mid to high MS quality.
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Again, another silly question. In terms of composition, strike, and finish, in 2008 and 2010, would each of those years have a possible 5 variations per year? (D Business, D uncirc satin finish, P Business, P Uncirc satin finish, S Proof)?

I read that they started doing the satin finish on mint starting 2005 and after.

If that is true I've found that I could add the following into a 36-slot Dansco page and fill all 36 perfectly:
1 1909 VDB
1 1909
1 1909-s
3 1958 P,D & Proof
5 2008 P/D Business, P/D Uncirc. satin finish, S Proof
20 2009 P/D Business, P/D Uncirc. satin satin finish, S Proof.
5 2010 P/D Business, P/D Uncirc. satin finish, S Proof

That's 36 coins excluding the S-VDB compressed into one page.




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The proof coins are bronze not zink? Has this been since 1982?
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There were no S Mint proofs in 1958 as proofs were struck in Philadelphia at the time.

@muddler In 2009 the US Mint struck the Proof cents in the original alloy. 1983 to 2008, 2010-date proof cents are struck in the Zincoln composition.

-MV
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Thanks Meadowview. I updated my previous post with the list to only 'Proof' in 1958. I'm looking to use 1958 so that it's the last year of each type of coin (except for 2010 which is the first).



....I don't even want to know how much this is going to cost me to put together $0.36 worth of currency. :)
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The proof coins are bronze not zink?


Only in 2009. They did them in the original composition for the 100th anniversary of the coin.

Trent, regardless of finish on the mint set coins, there are always 5 different coins for the circulation coins. Not counting 82 and 83 when there were no mint sets made. That statement applying to the modern era of mint and proof sets.
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This is why I like this sight so much, I'm still learning about coins after so many years.
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I read that they started doing the satin finish on mint sets starting 2005 and after.


Correct, the satin finish was discontinued after 2010 so it will only be for those six years.
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Yah, I'm learning a lot too.

What year did the mint change from taking their run of the mill business strikes and selling them them before they hit circulation as mint sets and switch to doing 'special' things to the uncirculated coins like special finishes or more care in the stamping process with the intent of making a higher grade uncirculated coin than just business strikes?
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I ask because I wastrying to think back to a CCF members posting a couple years ago where he took all these coins, put them in a blank Dansco page, and then labeled them very neatly with a label maker.
I remember the one you are talking about, but I have been looking for the last half hour and I cannot find it.
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