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1879-P VAM 74?

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 Posted 03/31/2014  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, now I get it. I read your post wrong, the die scratches/polishing are actually on the wing. I was looking above the wing for some reason.

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 Posted 03/31/2014  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the scratch circled in blue is the one.

Regarding the supplements, if you use the VAMWorld attributions a lot, you really should buy the supplements from Leroy. He puts his life on hold every December for several weeks to get these produced so that we can have digests of what's new. Also, if you become adept at reading descriptions, they can be faster than navigating through VAMWorld doing attributions in some cases. Ordering instructions are on VAMWorld.
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 Posted 03/31/2014  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JRG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John, Kris, and everyone else for the amazing investigative work Your knowledge and expertise is truly humbling.

So now that the mystery is officially solved, do you think this variety is rare? It's not on the top 100 list, but is the list really a true measure of rarity or more about collector interest? Is it ever updated? Thanks!
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It is not a list coin yet. It was not even known of until 2012 and the Top 100 list was made many years before that, I believe in 1996. I would say this is a keeper for sure. Pitted dies have a strong following. The 74.2 would not be as interesting to buyers as the 74.1 because of the lack of pitting on the reverse, but it is definitely still a really good coin because the pitting on the obverse is located in an area that could not be easily cleaned up/polished out, so the die was likely terminated soon after making this coin. If it was a common VAM, there would have been many more reported and it would have been listed years ago. I don't know if the list is ever updated but there are lots of VAMs that are not on any list that will bring a lot more than many on the Top 100 list. I could see this coin being on a future list, if not the 74.2 the 74.1 will be on a list for sure (I know it is on my own personal list of VAMs to look for).

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I had a hard time finding this on VAMworld, but here is the link to the information about the supplements and how to order them. http://www.vamworld.com/Leroy+Van+A...+Supplements

It looks like all of his works, including the attribution guides would not cost more than a few hundred dollars and it would be well worth it for anyone that deals with attributing silver dollars on a regular basis.

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The pitted obverse being quite obvious to the naked eye and the fact that this wasn't discovered until 2012 is probably an indicator that it is at least scarce. As most pitted die Morgans are pitted reverses, this makes it additionally interesting. While I don't know what kind of premium it would have in the open market, I would not pass one up if I spotted one. It is not a list coin, and who knows if someone will eventually come up with a list that includes it. The list that matters to me is 1879 VAMs. I'm pretty sure Brian Raines is working on a die study for 1879, and should his findings show that this is a rare one, more eyes will be on it, and it will command a premium as a rare variety for the date. Also, for VAM collectors that aren't about to put together every date study and would rather do a date/mint set that had cool VAMs in it when possible, this would be a front runner for 1879, along with VAM 41.
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