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New Member
United States
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Can someone give me an estimate value for 1833 cc Morgan silver dollar mint error. Instead of 180 degree reverse, its like 90 degree. New to the forum. Thank you   |
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Pillar of the Community
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I believe that is a counterfeit, sorry.
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New Member
 United States
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Ouch! How could you tell this is a counterfeit? And thanks for the honest feedback.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Counterfeit. Looks to be a cast copy. Where did you buy it from?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4409 Posts |
 to the CCF blueak22 Heritage auction archives show rotated dies for other CC years but not 1883. I'm thinking this is counterfeit. -MV |
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Pillar of the Community
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OP, it doesn't look right, and also, the rotated dies only exist on a few years of Morgans, and 1883-CC is not one.
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New Member
United States
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Bought this from an auction house. LOL
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8517 Posts |
Dang which one ?
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Moderator
 United States
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Not good. The reverse of this coin looks to be the 1921-only design - I've seen a bunch of counterfeit Carson City Morgans with that reverse. A little closer image would help, but I'm not at all optimistic about this coin. Welcome to Coin Community, blueak22. Sorry for it to have to be under these circumstances.
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Pillar of the Community
872 Posts |
a few tings...
Weigh it. You'll need a grams scale
Test it with a magnet
hold the coin with the index finger and thumb on the rim, make a circular motion with the fingers. If the coin is BU, it should have this Cartwheel - halo style effect - that travels around the coin.
Coin should weigh close to 27.6 grams, if I remember right
It should NOT stick to a magnet
and the cartwheels should be easy to see.
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Valued Member
United States
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I agree with it being counterfeit. Unfortunately I have seen and heard of quite a few fakes being sold at local auction houses recently. If an auctioneer does not specialize in coins, I would recommend taking someone who does to preview any coins being auctioned before bidding.
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Pillar of the Community
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By the way, take it back to the auction house. If they refuse to refund you, contact the secret service about a local auction house selling counterfeit coins and the auction house will be in some seriously hot water.
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New Member
United States
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@Collector-Corner, coin did not stick to a magnet and has a cartwheel. Don't have a scale to weigh the coin at the moment. Anyway, I want to thank you all for your posts. Thanks
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I agree with chasingtailbar. Take it to a local coin shop to verify it's authenticity or lack thereof in this case. Then take it back to the auction house for a re-fund. If their first offer is no, give them a second option, the law.
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United States
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No need too further verify. The coin has a reverse design which wasn't thought of until nearly 30 years after the date on it.
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Posted 03/29/2014 6:05 pm
