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being the opening bid on a coin and when you are out bid you find this...http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....yer_ViewLink
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 Posted 04/02/2014  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I was angry enough I might send ebay the same link, and describe what happened. Would probably fall on deaf ears though. It just really stinks, and I'm not sure there is anything really worth doing about it. I just get tired of being an ebay policeman.

edit: I just noticed that the auction is still going on. Kind of a tough situation, but the bottom line for me is that I don't pay more for a coin than I want to. Not much I can do about the shills.
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04/02/2014 9:52 pm
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It might be a coincidence but come on, this bidder doesn't even show up in the seller's feedback.
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Just bid what you're comfortable paying. If you win you win if not move onto the next. If it's a common coin I'd probably just move on anyway. Shill bidding has increased somewhat though due to the miserable prices things went for last fall from a selling standpoint. It's not an excuse but any thing you buy in an auction format anywhere there's a chance you're bidding against a shill
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My opening bid is what I call my watch bid and I won't submit my willing to pay bid until the last seconds of the auction. Now, there is no way I'll enter another bid on this coin or any other from that seller. It's a matter of principle for me.
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I don't disagree with avoiding them, it's just sometimes things are hard enough to find you don't really have a choice when you find one you really like
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 Posted 04/07/2014  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at his feedback, it is similar, but finished auctions, maybe he just has a lot of customers that hope to score on cheap coins?

ebay algorithms are pretty good at looking for and stopping shill bidders from my understanding. I'm sure it happens though.

Going through some of the completed auctions it seems that same bidder is the under bidder in many other auctions too.
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