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Axial Lighting Pics Of Proof Walker Opinions Please

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 Posted 04/04/2014  9:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CherreePicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Took a couple of pics in complete darkness using what I hope is close to axial lighting. Coin is a Proof 66 with gorgeous mirrors & no cameo contrast. Trying to get close to what this coin actually looks like in hand. Not an easy feat. First up is using 2 jansjos for light source.
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2nd pic taken using 6500K daylight bulb in an 8 inch aluminum fixture.
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and this last one was taken with same daylight bulb but with extraneous daylight allowed.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#2 looks real to me. nlp
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Axial lighting, in my experience, removes "all" reflection( shiny bits). The image is accurate but may well lack the eye appeal seen in the real coin. If you look at the medal picture that I posted in your first thread on this subject, you will get an idea of what axial lighting does. In real life the medal is proof with frosted surfaces. It is really quite spectacular, much like the proof 66 you have shown here. The axial lighting has "toned" the medal right down. The advantage is is it shows all the detail. Its ideal for producing photos for publication. However it may not appeal to you if you are looking at selling on ebay. Back to the photos you've posted: they are really good but, from some of the reflection coming of the high points, it looks to me as if there is still a reasonable amount of ambient light. I am not sure you should be worried about this. If you want a real life representation of the coin then a mix of axial and ambient light may well be best for your purposes. This was mentioned by Superdave( or someone else), but using other words, in your other thread
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I realize it is not "true" axial lighting. The quality of the glass I am using prohibits that as it allows light to escape & reflect from other surfaces which causes reflected light to hit the coin. During the shoot I noticed light being reflected from a glass framed picture on the wall etc. and covered what I could but I'm sure there is still some extraneous lighting contacting the coin. Plus the coin is in a slab which itself may be reflecting light on some areas of the coin. Maybe I should have left axial lighting out of the title because what I am trying to do is capture the mirrored surface of the coin as close to real life as possible. I shot the first 2 pics in darkness & the 3rd was shot with ambient light added from daylight entering the room via a window. This particular proof has no frosted surfaces & zero toning/color. With pic 1 the color is wrong even after adjustments. Pic 2 looks the best to me also but I want to obtain a better rendition of the mirrored fields if that is attainable. I have no qualms regarding mixing ambient & my "pseudo axial lighting" to get a good rendition. I knew going into this that shooting proofs would be a hair pulling experience. I'm wondering what would help here: more post editing, different lighting, different lens (used Rodenstock Apo Rodagon 75mm f4.0 1:1 duplicating lens) or most likely a combination of these. What are you guys/gals doing to shoot proof coins with mirrored surfaces?
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I liked your photos and the last few days I have been photographing coins for a presentation. After seeing your results I deliberately mixed Axial Lighting with other lighting and I am actually very happy with the results. Based on your photos and my recent experience I don't think you need to develop a perfect axial lighting system. that said we are all collectors and once the challenge is there who can stop us!
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Thanks. I have been experimenting with the glass a bit. When I get some free time (have been working way too many hours) I'm going to take some pics of an 1883-O buffed reverse DMPL using this mixed lighting approach. I have not been able to get a decent pic of this DMPL.
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Lighting a little off axial alignment would help with accentuation of relief somewhat.

The coins themselves?
Eye candy!
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