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I bet Crispus is laughing somewhere at my follies. Get it? Well, this follis is something that I've been staring at for two days now. I've exhausted the VOT chart and do not know what else to do.

Here is what I am able to read:

OBSERVE = FLIVLCRISPVSNOBCAES
Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust left (I think)

Reverse = (no star in wreath)
Line 1: L?
Line 2: VOT
Line 3: appearance of possibly a V, A, or a star. I'm 90% sure it is a V though.

MINTmark = TS(delta)_(I or T)

So I assume THESSALONICA minted....The closest I can come to is this, however, the bust appears to be different to me.

RIC VII 125 (Thessalonica) or RIC VII 113 (Thessalonica)

http://www.dirtyoldcoins.com/roman/...crisp003.jpg

http://www.dirtyoldcoins.com/roman/...crisp035.jpg



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You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 04/08/2014  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xodus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Met. After looking at all the bust types, I do not see one that fits. Maybe there's more to it than just VOT/V? I know the pictures are tough but its lovely in person, just dirty. Thanks!
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try RIC VII 118
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 Posted 04/08/2014  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Listed on Dane's RIC sheets:

Two varieties, different officinae.

Crispus
FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES
LDC left
CAESARVM NOSTRORVM
VOT V
star in badge at the top of the wreath
TS[B/D]VI
Thessalonica
RIC VII Thessalonica 118
c1 / r4
usually 18-19 mm
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Thank you all! The mm is spot on, and to further understand this; Are you saying that a B would make it c1 and a D would make it r4? Or was there another deciding factor? THANKS, I can't say it enough. You all are great!
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Yep, B is Common and D is Very Rare.
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Awesome, thanks Ben!
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