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Opening Cold Coins In The Mail During Winter

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A friend and I used to do lots of Winter photography and one of his tips when you were done shooting was leave the camera in the bag and let it slowly warm up when you get home or in the car instead of taking it out right away. The idea is that if you do a sudden freezing to warm temperature change, water can condense due to the extreme and swing and potentially mess up electrical components or rust metal. I haven't thought much about it, but it makes sense to me I guess.

Spring is still arriving the the North-east US, but I've been also patiently waiting a few hours before opening up coins which have been mailed to me after taking them out of the freezing mailbox.

Do you think this is overkill or can you open coins that are below freezing in temperature in your warm 70F house with no potential damage to the coin?
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I'm no expert but it would make 'cents' to me to reduce the risk of condensation by letting them warm slowly. Maybe even with a bag of desiccant in with them as they do.

Could be over kill but why take the chance says I.
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Not overkill at all. I would do the same thing, whether it is coins from the mail or a laptop from a cold car.
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Trent, By the way, I really like that avatar you have.

What is it?
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@ Dar, this is what I first posted way back.
"I know it makes no sense, but I like cents."
Trent, no overkill let them warm up. Moisture is a bad thing.
Put them in zip lock bags.
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@Dar: I honestly don't know what it is. If I recall correctly, it might have been one of CCF's default choices that I could pick from when I set it a couple years back. A lot of users here have their favorite modern or classic US coninage as their. I went with something different. It's helpful to be able to easily scroll to my posts in a long thread due to the color.
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trent... your avatar image is of the Royal Canadian Mint's Year Of The Horse Gold Holographic Coin 2002; $150 face value.
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A friend and I used to do lots of Winter photography and one of his tips when you were done shooting was leave the camera in the bag and let it slowly warm up when you get home or in the car instead of taking it out right away. The idea is that if you do a sudden freezing to warm temperature change, water can condense due to the extreme and swing and potentially mess up electrical components or rust metal.

For photography, I'm not certain the metal and electronics are the primary concern. Rather, I think it is condensation on the lens assembly, both inside and outside the camera, that is of main concern. I know the amateur astronomy books I've read all say to do the exact same thing with telescopes, and in that case it is condensation on the lenses and inside the tube that is the main worry. Lenses (especially dark-night telescope lenses) often have funky coatings on them that can be ruined by the formation and subsequent evaporation of a layer of water on the lens.

Be that as it may, it is still a valid concern with coins, since cold metal can cause condensation when suddenly placed in a warm, humid environment.

If the coins are sealed in airtight housings - airtites, slabs, etc - such that the warm moist air cannot get to the coin, then there is no cause for concern. If, however, the coins are raw, or in Whitman-style albums or even a stapled 2x2, you might then have cause to take precautions. If the coins are being mailed to you and you have no idea what the packaging might be like inside, again, better to take precautions.
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Good pick Trent.
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Warm air holds more water vapor than cold air. The speed of warming is not the issue, it is whether the coin is cold when exposed to water laden warmer air. The bag may wery well help, but not because of speed, simply because the cold coin can chill air near it. In the case of the camera, outside air may be trapped in small cavities, and if there is snow on the ground may be quite moist air. It takes longer for the air to circulate from the interior of a camera. So, do bag your coins but they should warm quickly compared to the camera.
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What is cold weather? We recently got in the low 70s... Does that count?
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