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Norway
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Well, I have som trouble with theese coins in a high grade. Any chance of PL on the 1880? It's more flashy than what pics show. The surfaces are quite mirrory. Are we getting MS64 on theese coins? Sorry about sizes, but in order to get below 100kb they have to be quite small.     |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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From the pics it's hard to tell if the 1880 is PL, but it's a slight possibility.. though I'm leaning towards no, they're pretty strict on this year.
As for 64's? Sorry but definitely not, way too much chatter. I'd call the 80 a borderline 62-63 as there's a lot of chatter in the fields as well as the face. And the '87 I'd say should make 63 due to fairly clean fields but quite a bit on the face neck
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 Norway
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Thank you, I have some problems telling the differences between 63-64-65's. Here in norway they're called about unc. Ms65 is what we call Unc. On goldcoins we're looking at MS67 to call it Kvalitet 0 = UNC.
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Australia
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The 1880 might be proof like.
As for the grades I would say MS63 on both
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United States
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For an example on how strict they are on this year, here's my PCGS MS-64 1880-S that's PL by every dfinition in the book, yet PCGS doesn't call it that way... And so notice the amount of chatter compared to the two you posted. (Sorry for the horrible pics, there just quick cell phone shots to give you an idea)   |
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Norway
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Same coin, different light.   |
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United States
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On that photo it appears more of a 63 and with a better shot of being PL, but again they are very strict on these perticular years. There's a set standard to distinguish SPL/PL/DMPL coins, I'll try to sum it up quick, lol. Also, a great site for grading is pcgsphotograde.com, it will show you all US coin series and examples of each grade... Truly a great site to help with grading, especially being as your used to how it's done in Norway.
If you do a search on here you'll probably be a me to find it. But again, to sum it up, take a newspaper (or other printed paper and use a ruler to mark a start line and then mark off every inch up from there. Put your coin on the start line and see how far you can read the printed words up your "inch marks".
Off the top of my head I believe around 4 inches is PL and over 6 (or 8 maybe?) is DMPL, don't quote me on that because I'm just going off of memory and different places say different things. But if you google "coin proof like scale" you should be able to find it.. They even have some you can print out. But again, they're very hard on this particular year, my coin for instance reads out to the DMPL line easily but wasn't designated as such...
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Norway
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Yeah, I've used pcgs a lot, and I've made a site a bit similar to pcgs' photograde for norwegian coins. The tip about PL coins is new to me, going to test it. Hehe. Nice to know, if I come by some pretty US coins. |
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United States
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63 Not PL, 62
Nice coins though.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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United States
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1) 63 2 62
I think the 1880 has an outside chance of 64
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United States
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Here are the PL standards and how to "There are a couple of ways to tell the difference between DMPL, PL, and SPL Morgan dollars. The most common way, and probably the most reliable, is to hold the coin on its edge next to a page of printed matter (such as a newspaper) where you have marked off the inches. You should have good light directed towards the coin (but not directly into the coin such that is reflecting.) Then, look into the coin's mirrored surface and see how far down the scale you can clearly read the text. DMPL Reflectivity Scale Here is the scale that denotes the proper designation for the coin, based on reflectivity: Semi-Prooflike (SPL) - 1 to 2 inches, devices must be frosted Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) - More than 4 inches Ultra Prooflike (UPL) - At least 8 inches" Edited by Fusion555
04/11/2014 12:17 am
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United States
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MS63 on both, and I don't think they would make a PL designation.
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Norway
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Thanks for all the replies. Then it seems my eyes aren't that bad. Was guessing borderline 63/64 so. Think the 1880, has 2-3 inches of mirror.
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Posted 04/10/2014 09:20 am
