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So if I understand theis right al cents 1994-2008 circulation strike CAM proof strike WAM?
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1959-1992 were wide "AM" business strikes and proof. ("M" centered between the A & M)

1993 all were Close "AM". (M on AMERICA to the left.)

The 1994-2008 business strikes should be close "AM". (M on AMERICA to the left.)

1994-2008 proof cents should be Wide AM. ("M" centered between the A & M)

There are a few 1998-2000 Business strikes with the Wide AM. (Collectables)
There are a few 1998 & 1999 proof cents with the Close AM. (Collectables)
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I am sure I am missing something here, the FG looks correct But it looks WAM
I am pretty sure the FG is the CAM FG but why the space in AM?
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thats a Close AM.should have a space like ME to be wide
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Hi Rupester - looks CAM to me as well. I will say, though, that some CAMs have a tiny gap between the A and M but others seem to touch. My bleary eyes have a double take from time-to-time when I see the little gap so I set it aside and look for the other indicators when I pick it back up. Good luck on finding a WAM or CAM of the right vintage.
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An over-polished die can create a "gap" between the A and the M which is why it is important to look at the location of the "FG" as you did and also the position of the "A" in STATES (centered when it's a WAM and closer to the second "T" if it's a CAM. I hope this helps.
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Don't bother looking for WAMs on Denver coins post-1995. All Denver dies were formerly produced in Philly and shipped to Denver but they opened their own die shop in 1995 so they would not have had access to a proof die design to create a Wide AM reverse business strike from 1996 onward.
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So what is with the AM? The devices seem smaller? I see the M isn't turned like it chould and the FG is placed where w CAM FG should be placed I do not understand the perhaps thinner devices on the A and M?
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Die wear can enlarge of the devices some. Over polishing can reduce the size some. But there are only two styles. It's either one or the other. Nothing in between. I always look at it: Is the "M" centered or off to the left? I don't worry about how far, just if it is centered or not.
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Thanks Coop!! Great explanation!! Die wear and polishing! That makes sense!! I have about 400 more of my grandmothers "penny jar" to finish I am hoping she has some great stuff!! Thought this was neat. Going to do a 89 Lincoln Cent thread soon...found something about the bowtie I found interesting. Its #7 on my list of to do's I've been working on something pretty big I will reveal hopefully by the end of the week. Cross your fingers for me!
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Don't bother looking for WAMs on Denver coins post-1995. All Denver dies were formerly produced in Philly and shipped to Denver but they opened their own die shop in 1995

I didn't think the Denver die shop started until 1997.
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