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1978 Proof Set Error

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hi all this is the first proof set I have ever bought and the only one I own I only bought this yesterday as it has a upside down coin
would this be classed as a error set or just normal I paid $30 is it worth any more with the upside down coin it does not rattle so I don't think you can make it move was it packed that way


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 Posted 04/15/2014  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Shanew.

If the packaging is intact set collectors will be happy to pay some premium I reckon. This is a nice 180 degrees rotation. Personally never seen proof sets with rotated coins before.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Shane,

I don't think this is an error. I've seen a few proof sets in this style of case where some of the coins have rotated.

Usually it is the 5/10 cents that rotate but I've also seen one where the 20 was 90 degrees clockwise.

Sorry mate

Pete
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 Posted 04/15/2014  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Peter,not an error.

Anybody got a theory on how the smaller denominations rotate in the packaging ?
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 Posted 04/15/2014  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Less surface area perhaps?
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 Posted 04/16/2014  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no difference in value, if it was flipped then that would be a different story
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 Posted 04/16/2014  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would pay less is anything, as it doesn't look as nice with the coins not aligned.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm wondering if it would be worth anything more even if the coin was flipped based on comments I received yonks ago about a RAM annual set (not proof) that had a coin missing. In the meantime I received another set - different year - also with a coin missing.

As both came straight from the mint and the sealed packaging hadn't been tampered with in any way, I thought they might attract a premium, but CCF comments suggested they were worth nothing and that I should return them to the mint for a "proper" set.
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04/16/2014 07:07 am
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did you return them
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 Posted 04/16/2014  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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did you return them

No way Shane

I kept both sets and bought replacement sets so I had "proper" sets in my collection for those years.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I for one would love to see pics.
and a missing coin is a whole lot different from a rotated coin
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 Posted 04/16/2014  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awildeheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I started a new thread for these rather than hi-jack ShaneW's thread.
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yeh they would get a premium on ebay imo
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I have to ask because I dont know what those 2 coins are made of, but is it possible to move them with a magnet?
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 Posted 04/17/2014  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys,
I've had a look at my sets, and while in nearly all case the coins are "firmly" held in the case, the ones that have rotated coins seem to be looser as it were.

I'm thinking that if the tolerances of the case don't match the coin correctly then it is possible that over time, with flipping the set to look at them, for the loose coins to rotate slightly each time. Over the course of years these tiny movements could add up to the rotations we are seeing.

Just an idea.

Cheers
Pete
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I have to ask because I dont know what those 2 coins are made of, but is it possible to move them with a magnet?
Our 5c Coins are Cupro-nickel, so they're not magnetic. Same for all the 10c, 20c and 50c all bar 1966 50c which were 80% silver.
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