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Interesting - Really Badly Pitted Cupronickel 5 Cents!

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Looking through at the nickels I have to see if I have a 1970 one, when I found this!

Interesting---Really-Badly-Pitted-Cupronickel-5-Cents!
Interesting---Really-Badly-Pitted-Cupronickel-5-Cents!

Pits everywhere! On the relief, on the background, on the text, everywhere! I wonder what this coin's been through. It's scratched so much that even the text and details appear flatter and wider. Even the queen's face isn't there anymore. Reminds me a bit of the coins in the Fake £1 thread in the UK forum.

Oddly it is slightly thicker than others, very near to 2mm thick. But I can only see a difference if there's a side to side comparison. Same diameter as I can tell.
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Could have been Struck Through Grease and then circulated... but we may never know, as circulation is the great equalizer when it comes to strike-through errors, weak strikes and even garage-made errors... eventually all they all wear down to a base level.
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This is one, that came right out of a mint roll, which was in a mint box of rolls....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Error-...290938253854
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I don't think it's fake, I can't scratch it with my fingernail.
Perhaps it is a struck through. Might it be weak strike? The coin is thicker.
Slightly misaligned reverse too.

Anyway, some better pics! The lettering and necklace look really fat.

Interesting---Really-Badly-Pitted-Cupronickel-5-Cents!
Interesting---Really-Badly-Pitted-Cupronickel-5-Cents!

If this is a genuine error coin, too bad it's been in circulation so long.
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This coin is simply very worn - its soft copper-nickel alloy (only time it was used in Canadian coinage) meant that every day of its life it was being ground down by much harder steel and nickel coins. I have found quite a few similar coins - British pounds also get this worn look.
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I know cupronickel is soft, but this is the first time I see that level of wear on a coin. My other two 1999s are smooth and shiny so this just makes for an interesting comparison.
I was just pointing out that if there is a mint error involved in this one then it's too bad, since it's too worn to tell anything.
I've never seen an actual 1 pound coin before, maybe I'll ask around my friends if they have one I can see just out of curiosity.

By the way, that's an amazing find SPP! Do you know if a filled die last several strikes or just one?

Edit: found another one in almost equally bad condition! At least this one is an older 1982. I guess there's not enough scratches on it to displace enough metal to make the letters look fat or the coin appear a bit thicker.
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The 1999 nickel look at the condition of the coin between the letters in "Canada" and "cents" I think it may have spent a short time in the dryer.
The 1982 is fine close to the neck on both sides, and between the beads and rim, just beat up I think.
SPP-Ottawa nice fifty cent coin that planchet looks damaged prior to the strike, and what a strike is it light and greasy or what I dont know but real nice though.
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Then I've had a Dryer Coin all this time under my nose (literally, this was placed in my table drawer) and didn't know it! So not having scratches around tight spots is a tell-tale sign of a Dryer Coin?
Yeah, that 1982 is really beat up. These two are the worst pitted cupronickels I have.
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The one SPP mentioned may not be really strike through, I rather think it's weak strike or thin planchet. Normally strike through area has a clear edge.
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So not having scratches around tight spots is a tell-tale sign of a Dryer Coin?

Not quite, it's simply a logical extension of how coins wear - when two coins knock together, the high points around a low point take the hit for it. So, the areas that are "sheltered" by design elements stay shiny while the design elements themselves wear down.
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Ahh I see. When I look at it it seems that the difference is somewhat more significant on the Dryer Coin.
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