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New Member
United Kingdom
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A Romanian friend gave these coins to me some years ago and I'd love to have more info, any help from experts would be greatly appreciated!  |
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Moderator
 Australia
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Hello and welcome.  In many Middle Eastern and Near Eastern countries, it is traditional for women to dress themselves up for festive occasions (such as weddings), and such traditional costumes often involve wearing chains and loops with coins hanging from them. This is what has happened to this piece. It looks like an Ottoman Turkish gold coin, but the pictures aren't quite clear enough to ID it properly. Gold coins are preferable for decoration, silver will do in a pinch, but if a woman can't afford (or can't risk) wearing a bucketful of coins, then brass substitutes are used instead. These "jewellery imitations" are often rather crude, since they're intended to only bear a passing resemblance to real coins and certainly are not intended to fool jewellers or coin collectors. But some are better made than others. I cannot tell from your pictures whether yours is a genuine gold coin or a better-made brass replica. This particular design is very commonly seen replicated, very often bearing the fictitious date "1223/78"; see example 1 and example 2. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
Turkey
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I think this gold coin belongs to the era of Mehmed the Conqueror. The Sultan who conquered Constantinopoli. The Retro of the coin has the Tuğra of Mehmed II. Nearly 600 years old :)..
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Australia
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Sorry, but Mehmed II did not issue gold coins with his toughra on them; his gold coins usually look more like this. His toughra also looked quite different to more modern toughras. This coin is either from the 1800s, or is a more modern replica. We still haven't seen better pics from the OP, to be certain. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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I'll be taking more photos this afternoon, with a proper camera, and hopefully the forum allows me to post links, as uploading here is quite an adventure!
Thank you all so much for the help!
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New Member
Poland
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Edited by wojciech_sz
05/03/2014 3:59 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Are these a bit clearer? Most of the coins are quite worn.
I'd be very grateful indeed if an expert could identify these
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New Member
Poland
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I know I'm not an expert but I think I've identified Your coin 3 posts back.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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I have such a coin, AH 1233 RY78
Mine is a brass costume imitation, as mentioned above.
The tip off is the regnal year, 78. Neither Mahmud nor any other sultan has ruled this long. As for the content, I wouldn't expect any gold in it at all.
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Australia
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The "year 78" copies are indeed a giveaway; they are rather carelessly copied off a "Year 28" coin. These coins much more clearly say either "Year 27" (the top example) or "Year 28" (the bottom example), though the date on the coin second-from-top is hard to read in that picture. I'd conclude that those coins are either genuine coins, or much higher quality copies than the ones we typically see here on the forum. The one on the worldwide-numismatics page wojciech linked to, however, is not genuine; it's a "year 78" replica. As you can see from the Krause catalogue/NGC page for these coins, they are not particularly rare or valuable, even unholed - and the vast majority of surviving specimens have probably been holed by now. They are probably worth more in their current form as jewellery than as coins. Did they come attached to the blue headband like that? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
United Kingdom
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No, they were loose when they got to me, I attached them to the ribbon because... well, I'm a girl. We do stuff like that :p
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New Member
United Kingdom
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No, they were loose when they got to me, I attached them to the ribbon because... well, I'm a girl. We do stuff like that :p
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