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Help With This Germany 1923 100 Millionen Mark

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 Posted 04/18/2014  9:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I don't find the pick number for this banknote. Maybe someone who has a different version of the catalogue could help me.

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I also found two listing of this banknote but no info about that:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Germany-Sto...111326770592

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Germany-100...271418803480

Thanks!
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 Posted 04/18/2014  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You will not find it in the Pick catalog. It is hyperinflation notgeld issued by a German business in the city of Stollberg.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. Thanks to your info I found more information. It's the pick #4892h in the Notgel catalog:

http://www.banknoten.de/product_inf...2h-vf-.html&
http://www.ma-shops.com/monasterium...6044&lang=en
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 Posted 04/21/2014  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That number is not a Pick number, it's a Keller number. Albert Pick had nothing to do with writing the Notgeld catalogues, which are a massive thirty-odd volume set of books originally compiled by Arnold Keller.

And the Keller numbering system isn't quite the same as the Pick numbering, either. Each city is allocated a number; Stollberg is city number 4892. Each series issued within that city is allocated a letter; this note is from the eighth series of notes from that city, in chronological order. Subseries are allocated additional letters or numbers. But the actual note within that series - in this case, 100 million marks - is not allocated a separate number. Thus, the full catalogue attribution ought to read "Keller 4892 h 100 millionen mark".
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 Posted 04/23/2014  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I realised according to the links I provided that it was in fact the Keller number. But I think (tell me if I'm wrong) that in practice, we use the term "pick #" to indicate de number in any catalogue.

For example, this page is about German Notgeld Local Paper Money and the first column is named "pick #" : http://www.allensinc.com/coins/curr..._notgeld.htm

Thanks for the info about the city allocation number, very interesting.
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 Posted 04/23/2014  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, that's just laziness on the part of that website's owner. "Pick number" (with a capital P) should only refer to world notes listed in Pick, never to notes that are not listed in the Pick catalogue; otherwise, people will be scouring the Pick catalogues looking for notes that simply aren't listed there. Just as world coins are listed in Krause, but you would not describe notgeld coins not listed in Krause by "Krause number".
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 Posted 04/25/2014  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I agree with you.
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