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Guys
Ive heard the term "repaired coin" before. Wondering what conditions or circumstances would requiere a coin to be repaired, and if so, what's the process, and who is repairing the coin.
Is it the mint at production? the mint at a later date? private parties / collectors?

I recently came across this Mexico 8R and the description shows its been repaired at 12. See pic.
A hole seems to have been filled there, and also the rim looks strange. Why / how would that happen?
Could "repaired" coins be actually fake coins with defects trying to pass as legit (like in the case of altered rims?)

Something strange from this pic is that the "I" from HISPAN seems to have been successfully struck over the repaired planched. Is that then an indication of a mint planchet repair?
This though does not match with the dentils appearance, where a repair seems to have done AFTER stricking, not before.

Thanks for your comments !!


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Most often, only a very valuable coin is repaired. For a coin to be successfully repaired it has to be done by a professional, in a lab. This is expensive so it generally doesn't happen for coins valued under $1,000. Repaired coins aren't fake just because they are repaired, especially that 8R is in an NGC holder.
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"Repairs" include things like filling in holes, removing graffiti, flattening edge knocks and such. It is always post-mint, and almost always intended to deceive a future buyer. It is a form of "tooling" - artificially "improving" the surface of a coin, to make it look better (and hopefully more valuable) than it should be.

In this case, someone has attempted to hide their repairs by carefully sculpting the missing lettering - such as the HI - to try to make it look like there is no hole there.
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Here's a link to one of mine which has been repaired, it had been broken and glued back together.
I got it as part of a lot of 7 dirhems. It was probably fixed since Al-Mutawakkil is a fairly scarce caliph.
The one in the photo above looks like a mount removal from the flattening of the dentils - they would have folded the mount over and either soldered or crimped it on. Nothing dodgy, more in the line of restoring the coin than anything else. It should be noted in a sale description, though, that it was repaired.

http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=127323
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Interesting, so in order to fill a hole, would some similar silver be melted and poured to fill it?
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It would get messy to pour on molten silver so they would most likely put a silver plug in the hole and than tool in the missing detail.
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They'd probably use a different metal, one easier to melt. Something like jeweller's silver solder, which typically has a much lower silver content than coinage silver.
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