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1975 Eisenhower Dollar - No Mint Mark. Goofy?

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Fake?

Legal Tender?

Know anyone who has one?

What's going on here?

Pricey! Why would anyone make a very limited number of strikes? (155?)

Seems to me, they would need many thousands of strikes, to "break even".

Do you think it will go up in value?

Please tell me I should NOT buy one!




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 Posted 05/08/2014  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Singer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK. "Don't buy it!"

Re-read the item description. There's enough there to answer all of your questions.
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 Posted 05/08/2014  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldnt buy one. While you can mush, smush, stamp etc a coin to deface it so long as it doesn't include advertising on the coin, and you don't misrepresent its value (to my understanding, so long as you don't melt nickels or cents), I am not so sure about making a fake issue out of an existing one, NOR am I even thinking making your own dies to make a fake issue is even legal.

I wouldn't touch the thing!
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It's a Daniel Carr fantasy piece (Moonlight mint) with a limited run of 155.. And although not real are quite collectible, as for if it will go up in value I don't know... But again, they are quite collectible.
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Daniel Carr is a guy who prepares and engraves the dies for these "fantasy coins," not counterfeits (by definition, as the coin itself never existed) to be overstruck on genuine Ike dollars. He is the owner of the Moonlight Mint and he strikes these using an ex-Denver Mint Grabener coin press. There are mintage limits set on the fantasy coins (as many as the Moonlight Mint wishes to). It is actually completly legal because he is striking them over genuine US Mint coins, and has no intent to fraud when selling them.

Views upon this "coin" is really a personal thing. You can hate it or you can love it. All I can say is that I don't hate it nor love it - it's just not what I collect.
But I can tell you, there are some collectors that collect the Carr fantasy coins, and there is demand for them and there is quite an amount of collector interest.

::Edit:: Sometimes information gets mixed up when it is passed around
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05/08/2014 10:08 am
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Matteproof, Daniel Carr *is* the Moonlight Mint. He owns an ex-Denver Mint press and strikes his own coins.
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I like how the seller blanked out the original retail price of $85 on the mintage chart. 350% appreciation in less than a year seems a bit ambitious. Maybe not- The 2006 Tesla Token sold for $40 and pulls $700 now (mintage of 70). A better buy for speculation would probably be the current production 1965 Peace dollar.
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Edit: oops, the Tesla Did Not sell for $699. auction ended. But they do have a high asking price.
And the $80 1965 Peace is now listed as out of stock. I don't know if that means production has ended though.
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Daniel Carr is a guy who prepares and engraves the dies for these "fantasy coins," not counterfeits (by definition, as the coin itself never existed)...


This is the part I seriously just do not understand. If this coin is a "fantasy coin" and not a counterfeit, then what is wrong with this coin? Are you saying it's perfectly all right to make a copy of a collectible U.S. coin (without the word "copy" on it) as long as the date is wrong or the mint mark is missing? Maybe the coin in the post I linked to is technically just a "fake" and not a "counterfeit", but why wouldn't it be considered a "fantasy coin"?
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There is no reason for this thread rehash the same arguments.

There is plenty of discussion about Daniel Carr here...

https://goccf.com/t/174767

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