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2001 CDN Quarter Plain Edge Variety/Error?

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Hello, I am new to collecting. Found a 2001 Cdn quarter with a plain (non reeded) edge. It is a 2001p. It was in circulation. I'm assuming it's nothing special but can't find anything about it on line. Anybody out there who can tell me about this plain edge coin? Cheers

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..red galaxy
No need for 2 threads on the same coin you can delete the one with no pics.
As for the quarter its hard to see but it could be PMD hard to say from those pics, is there any trace of reeding? Try getting some close ups and maybe one of the experts will reply.
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Pennyman007, Didn't realize it had posted twice. Will try and figure out how to delete the other thread. I did take other pics and have attached. The coin does not have any traces of reeding. The rim is rounded and the edge coloration is the same as the face. The rim seems slightly bigger than other quarters (bigger as in fatter). The quarter diameter itself seems slightly larger than the norm. I got it in a roll of quarters -- seeing it in the clear plastic coin holder I thought at first it was a foreign coin because the edge was completely smooth. Unfortunately the coin itself has seen lots of use. Maybe it was from a from a mint set or something that got into circulation? Any expert out their know if there was a plain edge version of this coin minted?

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 Posted 05/10/2014  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder did someone "spoon" this coin to try making a ring out of it?
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Had to look up on line what a "spoon" coin ring was. Basically seems you hammer the edge then drill out the centre. A lot of work to make a really rough looking ring but each to their own. Anyway, the pounding would have to be pretty uniform to get rid of every trace of reeding which is the case here which hardly seems possible. Plus the outer edge of the rim is completely regular and not cupped in any way. Also the coin itself appears larger not smaller than other quarters. Other than the usual wear for a 13 year old quarter there is no damage anywhere on the coin face/obverse which I think would be impossible to avoid if you started out to make a ring. Still, its not clear to me how this could happen at the mint either. My guess is that making a coin is a one-step process and that when the die is struck the images and edges are formed all at once so there could never be a plain edge coin made unless that was what the mint intended to make. Is that correct?
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That 25-cent has seen a long life, in a casino... slot machines that take 25c coins (instead of tokens), will often have their reeding completely worn away...
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I Looked at some images of deliberately spooned coins on line. While I doubt it is that (its not a silver coin so it would not be much use as a ring or worth the months of effort involved to flawlessly "spoon" it), I expect that it is Post Mint Damage of some sort that is responsible for this. From what I have now read, it seems that older coin operated washing machines have been known to produce a similar effect on the edge of US quarters that have somehow gotten caught up in the washer's mechanism. Because the effect on my quarter is so regular in nature this machine-based PMD theory seems the most likely explanation here too. In short, I think I am able to help answer my own query. ... My take away: all that glitters is not gold (or a Mint error). While this coin is going back in the roll, it might be useful to leave the thread up. The pics might help someone else who runs across something similar in a Canadian quarter. Thanks to those who posted helpful suggestions.
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yes ... or Casino slot machine. SPP-Ottawa: our posts crossed while I was editing mine but I agree it would have to be a machine caused repetitive agent of causation. Your theory is as good as any I read about. Cheers.
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There are many different processes involved in making a coin. Check out minting coins on You tube it will help you understand what it takes to make a coin. As far as spooning goes you could spoon it on a lathe in seconds. If you made a ring out of that coin you wouldnt know what it was. Here is an example of how many coin rings are made.

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Interesting. Will check the video out. Thank you. Next time I'm in Ottawa will want to do the Mint tour.
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Interesting. Will check the video out. Thank you. Next time I'm in Ottawa will want to do the Mint tour.
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Interesting. Will check the video out. Thank you. Next time I'm in Ottawa will want to do the Mint tour.
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Next time I'm in Ottawa will want to do the Mint tour.

Me too, if I ever get around to visiting my sister, she lives there and thinks nothing of coins or mint tours, some people I'll tell ya lol.
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Interesting. Will check the video out. Thank you. Next time I'm in Ottawa will want to do the Mint tour.
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When you reply give it a few seconds for the changes to the thread to rattle before you click out or it will keep re-posting if you move to quick.
Just so you know SPP-Ottawa is a well known expert on this forum and elsewhere. His advise is sound.
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