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$1 On A 10c Planchet On The Ebay

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hi all any thoughts on this it just don't look right it should not have a raise rim and the weight is a worry I would love to have a punt at it but gut says no
but the seller seem ok what do you think http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/28134869....m1438.l2649
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 Posted 06/06/2014  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry try this like number
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 Posted 06/06/2014  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
your link isn't working for me Shane
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 Posted 06/06/2014  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ALL wrong to me Mate, keep your cash in your wallet on this one mate.
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thanks mate gut spoke some poor bloke will get ripped 23 bids 2days to go
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 Posted 06/06/2014  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are pics of 3 or 4 different coins on this page. I can't tell which one the seller is actually selling. Very suspect. Comical, but suspect. Steer clear of this one, you have an eye for a good coin.
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 Posted 06/06/2014  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy to work out here.
IF it is a dollar on a 10 cent planchet then it would be silver in colour not brown/gold
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 Posted 06/06/2014  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SECOND OPINION was great boys it look like a plaster mould ahahha
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 Posted 06/06/2014  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I know. Intersting, tho. Would the $1 dies actually "impress on a 10 cent planchet? I mean, they would be set at a constant "depth"", as well as pressure, wouldn't they?
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 Posted 06/06/2014  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcruise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks fake

Lettering would be closer to edge if true
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Though I'm not sure what planchet it is struck on, it appears to be a genuine error. Firstly, it was die struck, with weak peripheral details and considerable metal flow on the edge farthest away from the collar. But just because it is die struck, does not mean that it is genuine - though I believe it has all the details of an officially struck coin.

If I was an the market for this type of error, I would not have any qualms about bidding.
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 Posted 06/06/2014  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like a dollar coin has been honed/machined out with a lathe & a slice of a 10 cent piece has then been fixed into the cavern, which is why it is silver/grey ten cent colour on one side & MOR gold $1 on the other side.
IMO the last pic gives it away,have a look at the difference in the colour of the surface of the obverse compared to the very outer rim & if you look very closely you can see a couple of tell tale gaps,they've done quite a good job of putting this together but not quite good enough,see how smooth the surface is around the rim ( like it's been tooled/worked ) compared to the rest of the surface.
Just my opinion.
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06/06/2014 10:56 am
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That would not explain the slight size difference, or metal flow (quite obviouse on the hands/claws of the animal closest to the rim on the right. I dont see any evidence of a seem.

I suspect the dark outer edge may be a result of metal flow during the striking. If it is a clad or plated planchet of some sort (not necessarily a 10c planchet), metal that is not normally visible from a face of the coin flowed up the edge during striking.

The smooth surface around the rim looks to be the simple result of a weak strike (since the planchet that it was struck on is smaller than a $1 planchet). I would expect a more crude, machined look if it was cut down post-strike.
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I still say there should be no edge like the one here lets say it was a 10c it would have no edge I know these are not 10c but this is what I would expect to see on the edge just my opinion

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What are your opinions on these pieces?

http://www.downies.com/aca/auction3.../307/684.jpg

http://www.australian-threepence.co...lanchet.html

If the planchet that is being struck by dollar dies is still large enough, the design rim will still be present. This piece is not off-center and it is rather large. In the case of the 20c presented, the planchet that was used in its strike was simply too small for the design rim to be struck on the one side, since it rested against the collar on the other side.
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 Posted 06/06/2014  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Call me Crazy but on second thoughts this is starting to look like the real McCoy.
The colour is a real put off but that could just be a result of a lousy photo ( I can relate to that)
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