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1835/5 Half Cent!

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 Posted 08/06/2007  09:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My first slab purchase, but a few questions as well.

1835/5-Half-Cent!

Ok, yes, the picture bites. It's the slab. Also, the scratches are on the slab, not the coin.

The coin is slabbed in a 'SEGS' case with the following text.

1835/5 C-1/Brown 1/2C MS-60 Micro Porosity *

The back 'One Cent' is clearly double die which really excited me, until I saw on ebay where ALL of the 1835 Half Cents were doubled die! DOH!

The top line of the '1' is poking out at 20% from the top. The loop of the 5 has the second 5 appearing to the east.

Think I'm going to have to break this coin out of it's SEGS prison and clean it with some acetone. There is a lot of white junk just floating around inside of it.

I didn't see this coin overdate in the Cherry Picker's v4 guide. Any idea on the price of the overdate? I paid $100 for it.

Thanks!

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 Posted 08/06/2007  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both varieties cohen 1 and 2 are common. The 5 is not an overdate, but rather a recut and lapped clashes of the 5 (and repunched 8 and 5 is evident in early states of C1 obverse).

Can we see a pic of the whole obserse(even though it is a Half Cent)?
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 Posted 08/06/2007  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doh! Oh well, thanks Benji! Thought I had something special there.

Here's the coin in it's entirety.

1835/5-Half-Cent!
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I can't see the overdate on the '5' on coin facts. So I'm assuming that the one linked below is a later die state than this one?

http://www.coinfacts.com/half_cents...t_obv_c1.jpg

Thanks for your help!
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 Posted 08/06/2007  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She looks pretty good for the price paid. It it tough to find a good Cu without "microporosity" and I agree that an acetone rinse will help preserve her and prevent any further damage from PVC or verdigris. I suspect most of the scratches are on the slab?
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Absolutely, the slab is in poor condition. I do not see any dings on the front, and only three small dings on the back.

I'm assuming the MS60 is due to the porosity and not the condition of the coin. The reverse actually has a little bit of the luster still present.

Should I clean it with acetone and resubmit it, or will it never pass MS60 due to the porosity?
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You never known with TPGs? They may bag it due to porosity and then again they may not even see it as porosity? The way I see it, you will only be out about $30-$40 on fees.
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At the very least, I'll finally have a clean slabbed coin. There is so much gunk just floating on the coin, it's amazing.

Thanks for your advice Benji!
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 Posted 08/06/2007  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would likely not make it through PCGS or NGC, ANACS may slab it. A few things to consider. SEGS has the Attribution right but they may be a little high on the MS-60 I think most graders would call it AU-58 Brown, with some environmental damage, possibly PVC damage.

So there is a fair chance that the coin would body bag if sent to one of the better graders. Personally, I don't feel that it serves a purpose to reslab it in anything else.

If you want to crack it out, note the designation and then carefully have the coin preserved, I might crack it out.

My feeling is , leave it in the slab that it is in now, and don't try to do anything as far as cleaning on your4 own.

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Bill
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Thanks for the excellent advice Bill. All that I'm planning on doing with the cleaning is pouring acetone on it.

What's bothering me is that I can't see the doubled '1' due to the crud.

You certainly have given me something to think about.
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