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Collecting Currency When You're Sharing A Dorm Room, How?

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I will be graduating and going to university this September. From what I can see so far, I think I will get a dorm that has 2 people sharing a room. I don't know if it's safe for me to continue to collect actively under those circumstances. I could box up my stuff and ask my mom's trusted friend who lives in the city to keep it for safekeeping, if collecting in a shared dorm room isn't safe.
I talked to a friend about this yesterday, he suggests I buy a locker so I can lock them in.

The thing I am most afraid about is because these things have a face value and therefore can be spent easily and it will be hard to prove and impossible to track down because it is cash. I have written to the university residences about my collecting and that I own numismatically valuable items, but I don't know if they have any free or will give me a single room since I'll only be a freshman.

I was thinking of combining these two suggestions together, once I settle in and everything is prepared, then I can take my stuff and get on collecting again.

Do you think I'm doing the right thing if I continue collecting but in hiding? If you were in my circumstance, what would you do?
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Leave all of my stuff at home with my parents. That's what I do.
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I had all of my coins in my room. I just wouldn't say anything and keep it discrete. A lock wouldn't be a bad idea either. I had no problems but you are taking a risk.
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I can't leave my stuff home with my parents since I'm an international student 20+ hour plane ride away from home. I'm thinking of locking it up when I have to leave it. I don't even know if the room will have a separation between the 2 people or it is just 1 open room where 2 people live. If it's the second case there will be no place to keep it secret.
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Safety deposit box. Valuable items in a dorm room will get stolen. I don't like the idea of letting a trusted friend store it either.
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Buy a safe at one of the super stores. They are cheap. Having gone to private school since I was 12yr, and lived in dorm rooms with roommates through college, I can tell you that roommates and the such, are "shop lifters", not thieves. If you leave it out, they wiil pocket it. The one who are dishonest, are thieves of opportunity, not safe crackers or people that put a lot of thought in ripping you off.
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You're saying even though I get a locker and put it in a dorm room things will still get stolen?
And the person who I'll be leaving my stuff with is my mum's friend, not mine. She will also be my legal guardian. I'll be leaving things like books, clothes, etc with her while I'm gone (I'm leaving Canada in 2 weeks), my mom knows her friend won't touch my stuff.

Edit: denco, so as long as I keep my collection locked I will remove the opportunity they have to steal them?
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06/15/2014 12:37 am
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A safety deposit box at a bank, and I wouldn't tell anyone
I collected either. These places are crowded with a variety of people with different ethics and financial backgrounds. Money is money, I wouldn't tempt fate in an environment like this. Youth is the time people make many mistakes, they regret later in life. I'd only take 5 items of lower value to look at and leave the rest with parents, until you're in a more secure living arrangement. There's the old saying money is the root of all evil. Money is tempting to people, and their not going to know its collector stuff, they'll see it as spendable.
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Two suggestions:

1: When my son went away to college I bought him a gun safe to keep his money in. You can get one a gun store and you also get a cable lock that will keep the safe in you room and will make it hard for someone to walk off with it. A two gun safe (larger variety) can hole quite a bit. Periodically you may have to move some stuff to another location though. Since there is no dial you won't be overlooked when you open it no matter who could be watching. The good thing about this is that it will also safeguard your spending money.

2: The safes you get from the office supply and box stores are for convenience only. They have to be secured so that someone won't take it with them and work on it somewhere else. With a crowbar anyone can get into these el cheapoes without any trouble. They keep honest people honest. The crooks won't be slowed down. If you go to one of these stores you get what you pay for, a regular safe company could be a better bet to get your safe. A lot of the safes that are from the box or office supply stores are light weight and can be easily walked off with.

Something that can be secured is a much better bet.
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I guess I'll look into the safety deposit box first. I'll go to my local bank branch and ask if they know about the safety boxes in that area. Dorm is the only place I'll be living until I finish my undergrad though. Maybe until my further studies I'll still be in a dorm. I'll just have to live with it, being an international student.

After reading the posts above, my second option is to box it and cover the whole thing in sellotape (in such a way so that I'll know if it got opened) and leave it for safekeeping in my guardian's house.

pocketchange50, I've picked up nice crisp $1 bills from banks (including a devil '54), a couple are replacements, all sharing one same defect: one single wallet fold.

ghostrider, how do you open gun safes then, do you use a key? Sorry if I seem very ignorant but I don't hear about these things where I came from.
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The gunsafe that I'm referring to using a combination of 3 of your 4 fingers (minus thumb) that presses a switch on the top of the safe. Some models also have a light feature that will signify if someone tried to open the safe and was unable to do so (squealer function). If the right combination is used then the door swings open offering instant access to what is inside. Being a campus arrangement your probably not going to have a gun but will have the need to secure your personal property.

You can most likely get these safes from a gun shop. There are probably other small safes but I really would trust the el cheapo from the office supply and box stores. Home safes are usually secured by titanium screws into concrete that have a shear strength of hundreds of foot-pounds and use 4 to do the job properly. Carriage bolts are sufficient in applications where small safes may need to be moved from time to time due to various reasons. My son moved his 4 times in his freshman year and was never questioned about the possibility of a gun. But times were different 10 years ago.

Not sure of the current cost but I'm guessing about $200. You can secure it with a cable or you can bolt it using a pattern drill arrangement with carriage bolts with the nuts inside the safe. Securing any safe is important. Just because its called a gun safe does not mean that you have a gun. Keep in mind that most safes hold between two or four pistols so space could be an issue. Such safes are usually in the area of 6" wide 3-4" high and perhaps 9" deep.

The nice thing about them is that you can move them when necessary and take them with you.

Edit: The only dumb question is the one you don't ask because you fee foolish. That's the one that could possibly cause problems later one. Don't apologize for asking questions - that's what give you information and knowledge.
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mom's trusted friend who lives in the city to keep it for safekeeping,
Are you saying the friend lives near where you will be going to school? If so then that's the route I recommend because then you can make arrangements to go to the friends house and partake in your hobby safely. I would still get a good lock-box though. Good luck with your schooling.
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Safety deposit box. Do not leave it with a "trusted" friend. Don't trust anyone with your coins.
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I would rent the safe deposit box at a local bank for most of it. For stuff you are working on researching, photographing and what have you I would get a small safe with a cable (I think master lock makes one) and lock that to the radiator or something else secure. Also dont tell anyone about it.
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Safety deposit box. Anything else & your inviting trouble.
I'm speaking from experience.
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word of caution..your moms trusted friend may be the most honest person on this earth. but if you leave any items at their residents..leave it in a lock box.for 2 reasons I say this
1..they miht be honest,their friends/visitors may not
2..if your mom gets in a tiff with trusted friend.......

true,short story
when I was a little guy, my dad and I went to a K-mart store
he had an old truck, nothing in it of any value, nothing to steal
as we exited the truck, my dad said lock the door
i questioned my dad as to why? there is nothing to steal
my dads comment was short and savvy
"keep 'em honest, son,"

my advice to you is the same given to me
"keep em honest"
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stack-On-...roductDetail
buy 2...one for your dorm, one for your moms friends house
AND a safety deposit box
..1..keep your stuff in the bank
...2..you have a place to keep the folder you are working on
locked up in your room
...3..peace of mind your stuff is safe at family friends house

just my humble opinion
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