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High Grade Nickel From 1901

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 Posted 08/07/2007  3:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you think this coin would grade? I'm thankful for all opinions and explanations.

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 Posted 08/07/2007  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Maudry...very, very nice coin. Focus is a bit soft and lighting subdued, so some blemishes that would otherwise be apparent may be hidden. But, assuming the coin is close to as shown, and carries sufficient mint luster, I would say this is a high MS or PR coin. The strike is so strong that I'm wondering if this is a proof. Liberty nickels are notorious for poor business strikes, but this coin has strong stars, hair and "LIBERTY"...it also has an equally strong reverse where the details of the corn and leaves is consistent throughout. Again, no blemishes show up in the fields or devices, at least to my eye.

I've spent quite a bit of time getting to know the Liberty nickels, but am NOT expert at the subtle art of grading high MS/PR coins, but this has to be a 65 at least.

I'll yield to the more experienced among us!
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08/07/2007 6:51 pm
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 Posted 08/07/2007  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice MS-64 atleast
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 Posted 08/07/2007  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say this should go 65 as well because it looks alot better than my ms-63 I have in my dansco7070
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 Posted 08/08/2007  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for your opinions! The pics are from my scanner. Unfortunately I am completely unable to do any adjustments to make the focus look any sharper :(
I didn't see any blemishes on the coin - so I don't think the scan is hiding anything of importance.
Having checked several pics of proof coins on http://www.collectorscorner.com I believe it has to be a business strike and I would tend to MS65, in comparison with coins of grades between MS64 and MS66.
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 Posted 08/08/2007  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm trying to figure out what would keep it from a 66!! Is there any way to get shots from a camera? There is a pretty big price jump between the two grades most likely when you're up that high.....

Very nice Maudry. Was this a recent purchase?
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 Posted 08/08/2007  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's a very recent purchase - I got it only yesterday. Ordered it from a trader in Germany together with several French coins including a quarter franc from Napoleon I in UNC.

The digital camera I have is completely useless for small objects like coins. So I am not able to provide better pics.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a proof, It is a business strike. You probably dont want to hear this but there is slight wear on the cotton leaves(the high points) on the obverse and on the reverse. The coin might still pass as MS-60 but it has an unnatural appearance for an MS nickel and was probably cleaned at one point in it's life.

It might go MS-60 cleaned but I would call it an AU-58+
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 Posted 08/10/2007  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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but there is slight wear on the cotton leaves(the high points) on the obverse and on the reverse


If you are that familiar with this series that you can see wear on this thing, I bow to your eyesight/knowledge. This is NOT being sarcastic either!! Thank you for the post. I would have put this thing way up there in MS level, and I would have sold it as such also thinking I was correct. I guess that's one reason to keep slabbed coins around. Nothing beats a coin in hand for comparison.....
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I can't see evidence of cleaning from the scan and it's very tough to determine the wear or condition of the planchet so I'm going to have to remain on the fence on this one in the absence of a photo. She's nice whatever grade she ends up.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the absence of better photos, I stand on my initial opinion...this nickel is MS---maybe 65 or even higher. Now, in hand, the appearance of the coin could change my mind. We all know that photos are frequently very misleading as to a coin's true grade depending on lighting, etc. I, personally, cannot see any rub on this coin...but then differences in opinion are what makes the world go round.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a lock for a MS-65.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greyhav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Now that we've got some good controversy, I'd like to see what a TPG says.
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 Posted 08/11/2007  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some really nice fields around the devices. I'm with Hunter on the photo quality and because of it it's hard to tell what the finish looks like. It may have been dipped but with the lighting it is hard to say if its the camera or coin.

The possible rub...without coin in hand it could very well be a weak strike

I'm not going too far out on this one so just say MS with light cleaning

(sorry edited for typos...man was I tired this morning)
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08/11/2007 07:57 am
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Maudry,
are your pics taken with a digital camera or a scanner?
I ask this because a scanner will subdue luster and can sometimes make a coin look cleaned.
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 Posted 08/11/2007  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-65. It might even be a MS-66. Excellent coin.
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