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Help With 1864 2c - Possible RPD?

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I've tried to find a 2 cent piece with the same look to the date, but I've had no luck.

Does anyone know if this coin is has a repunched date?

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Thanks for looking!
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westcoin should be along soon.
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westcoin should be along soon.
you know I can't stay away from these beauties!

Yes it is a repunched date. 1864 LM series have a lot of different RPDs, more than I care to count, If I had to guess I'd say somewhere around 40 different ones. This particular one is actually a triple punched date, most evident on the 1.

Kevin Flynn calls this one a RPD-003 or his old classification it would be KF-L5-TPD

Frank Leone lists it as - 1864LM 3C (64LG-3o1r) Frank also notes this variety was struck from two different planchet types, Normal with squared off edges (also used on all other 2¢ pieces) and the second planchet type with rounded edges, also noted the second type is usually found with a high proportion of rim burr errors.

Walter Breen also list this variety as - 2376
Cherrypickers ID is FS2.001.7 (sorry don't have the newer book to cross reference to their latest IDs).

Not a particularly tough RPD to come across, though still quite interesting. Upon close examination you should see die chip above the left tip of the banner, and one on the leaf, under the RU in TRUST as well as a heavy horizontal die scratch from the right side of the shield and the leaves. On the reverse there is a die crack that runs through the top UNIT in UNITED the rim above the T should show signs of tooling. The serif on the D in UNITED is complete.

A small premium on these is found.

The serif on the D (reverse) is a way to differentiate a lot of the varieties, as there is also a quadrupled repunched date that is very similar, but it shows an incomplete serif on the D.

Cool find and I hope you learned something - keep your eyes peeled!
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I always learn about coins when I ask a question on CCF. And, as always, I'm totally impressed with the amount of knowledge the members have on the coins I post.

Thank you very much for the information.

Ben
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No problem Ben, I'm glad to help, and educate anyone willing to talk 2¢ pieces, I'm a bit weird like that

I found one on ebay posted today, have a look to see if it matches yours.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1864-2-Cent...em259122f070

At the price they are asking I expect a person with no knowledge, as to how common these are, will purchase it, or it will sit for a long time, because it is not worth anywhere near the asking price in that shape, maybe $25-35 range.

Looks like they got the new FS ID posted FS-1302

I'm waiting for my latest CherryPickers Guide to show up from an ebay purchase, it's been delayed in shipping for a week now. I only have a 3rd edition, and bought the newer one to have the latest FS numbers.

FS = Fivaz/Stanton after the authors Bill Fivaz and J.T. Stanton!
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Yes, that's the same RPD.

I need to update my Cherrypicker's guides as well.

Thanks again for the info and pointing out this listing!

Ben
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