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I was looking at 1969 obverses and this one stood out from the rest, because the bust look kind of frosted and the background is very shiny (I was looking head-on and it's also visible when the coin is tilted). I flipped it and the reverse looks like that too. Just a very nice business strike or something else? Because as far as I know, only 1967 and before ones can have cameo. A couple of far shots first:  And here's using my usual setup, the only change is the white background because I lost my black one. I did not manipulate any lighting.  And here's something I snapped real quick while typing this because I saw that it was really striking when you put it side by side with another coin. 
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Your coin here reminds me of what I was reading days ago-about 69 10 cents.,.rare 10c where only handful left mint for circulation, after die changing done (Handful of coins too late)by mint due to fact about changing from 50% silver to Nickel (Cost cutting measure due to price of silver at that time-1966 went from historic 1.oo to 2.60 a OZ.,.Wow.).,.Maybe Your coin even though 50 c not 10c is same?Anyone?
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What a slow time for world and Canada's mint 1966 to 68, and 1969,. Only took them 2 or 3 years to decide stuff.,Under the crunch of now having to pay2.50 a Oz Ag They switched from 80% to 50%,. even though the 2-3 years discussing to go with Ni,.Then it was sinched just to high a Ag price so now Ni coins for Canada.,.So if took 2 or 3 years to decide in 2012 to get rid of 1cent,. seems very normal.,.If Your 50c is one of those rareities it is worth a lot.,. 
Edited by persistnt 06/25/2014 6:03 pm
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persistnt, you mean the Large Date 1969 dime?
I forgot to mention the die looks fresh, you can still see some die polish lines on the coin if you turn it sideways and look very closely. I doubt I can photograph it. Does it have anything to do with the relief looking slightly frosted?
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Yes, because the bluenose on the 10c (Large date YEs) has an effect (Cameo/SP)also in addition to the Year.,.- I would hang one to that coin and let experts in 68 69 canada coins look at it.,.More here know anything?  I thought Cameo went right up to 1974 coins.,. 
Edited by persistnt 06/25/2014 6:52 pm
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I haven't seen a pic of a large date dime or hear much about it so I can't say anything about it. Did a bit of searching, looks like they exist until 1976. I thought only until the silver "white" coin years. Here's more pics.  I stood it up on a book, sorry it's so grainy but it's facing away from the light (I can't float out of the 8th floor window).  Here is side-by-side again (the comparison coin was switched):    So, decision? Cameo or no cameo?
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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DBM, the one you linked me to looks like it's more strongly contrasted, is mine contrasted enough to be called cameo by a TPG? What does Charlton say about cameo? I guess I'll buy the book when I come back... By the way, does cameo wear off by circulation?  I'm curious, maybe tomorrow or Friday I'll look in the microscope what makes frosting. This is gonna be the last time I'll be able to use a microscope in a long time.
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tough to get a cameo on a nickel coin. Cameo grading is beyond my grading expertise
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It does make sense since nickel is a harder metal. Do you know how uncommon are these nickel cameos?
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I think your coin is a 1969 proof-like strike, which got loose into the nickel half dealer bins... even the proof-likes, were subject to weak strikes in 1969. Cameo on nickel coins is tougher to find than silver, but some years are tougher to find than others. You can find a 1975 PL with a strong cameo, but have to look a long time to find a 1972 PL with the same finish. Business strikes, are infinitely tougher... Here is a nice nickel 50c, with a strong cameo. 
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Edited by SPP-Ottawa 06/26/2014 4:37 pm
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Your coin is on the line for Cameo.,.So some would say Yes, some No.,.It may be as said PL grade.,.I always believed that with newer die, then better Cameo effect.,.So the coin before yours is cameo and the one made after Yours is not.,.How is that for wishy washy.,.
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Here is my PL 1974 50 cent coin. With cameo.  
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Cool if it's a PL escapee, because someone who dumped this already picked out all the other good ones out of that batch. The weak strike was why I thought it was a business strike. Thanks for yhe explanation SPP. Is there a trick to photographing cameo coins so that the entire background is black? Or are your cameras black? I might try sending it to a TPG for fun, when I return after Summer I'll live 30 mins away from the ICCS.
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