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 Posted 06/25/2014  10:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AlabamaDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is my first roman coin. I really think its a cool coin, but I can't figure out the year or iD. Can anyone help me?

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Thanks ahead of time.

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 Posted 06/26/2014  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't help you with IDing the coin, but it's a very cool piece. I especially like the bird on the reverse. Congrats on your first Roman coin!
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 Posted 06/26/2014  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlabamaDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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 Posted 06/26/2014  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's a nice one. To my eye it at least looks authentic.

I don't know anything about these either, but! The glare reflecting off the plastic makes it harder to see the coin. If you busted it out of the holder and took photos, we would be able to see the details more clearly (which helps with identification and valuation).
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 Posted 06/26/2014  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is a "late Roman Bronze". More specifically, a follis of emperor Licinius I, 4th officina of the Siscia mint, reverse type Jupiter standing, similar to this coin on Wildwinds except the reverse legends are slightly different (your coin reads "IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG NN", Jupiter Protector of our Emperors).

Your coin, like many ancient Roman coins, does not actually bear any kind of date on it. Nor, of course, have any mint records survived from the period. However, we can deduce from archaeological evidence that this particular type was struck in Siscia in AD 313.

I've also moved the thread to the Ancients subforum for you.
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 Posted 06/26/2014  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlabamaDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome! Thanks so much for the education. It's so cool.
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 Posted 06/26/2014  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin for your first Roman.
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This coin 'type' was issued by both Constantine I and his eastern co-emperor Licinius I and is the standard issue for this period throughout the whole empire. After the chaos of the early 4th century when the empire endured 4,5 and 6 emperors at a time these two "Generalissimo's" had reached a 'temporary' accommodation with the eastern emperor Licinius marrying the sister of Constantine. The truce was temporary. In the end Licinius and his son (the nephew of Constantine) Licinius II both were 'deposed'(AD324) and later executed and Constantine became sole emperor. The coin dates from a period of peace and harmony between the two as indicated by the designation AVGG, meaning that there are two officially recognized emperors.
The coin has endured 1700 years buried in the ground and will suffer no insult by you taking it out and holding it in hand. The great advantage collectors of ancient coins have over modern coins is we enjoy holding them !
As for the reverse legend IOVI CONSERVATORI ......
Translations are of necessity half 'interpretation'. The latin noun "conservator" can be rendered as 'savior'. Given the fierce competition that was taking place at this time between the 'old' and the 'new' religions I am inclined to read it simply as "Zeus Saves !"
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 Posted 06/27/2014  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlabamaDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FVRIVS RVFVS, thanks for the background. Makes it really cool to know that type of stuff. One reason I like collecting coins is thinking about the history that took place around them, who might have held them, etc.

I'm actually the one who put it in the 2x2. I was afraid that otherwise I'd lose it!

Did y'all notice the corrosion on the coin? Should I do something about that or leave it be?
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 Posted 06/27/2014  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin does not appear to be 'corroded' but has some grunge adhering to it. Some people like a little dirt .... some prefer them clean. Once cleaned though they are cleaned for good. You might soak in olive oil for a few weeks and then brush lightly with an old toothbrush.
Over cleaning is very bad though so whatever you do don't be hasty about it. If you begin to see bronze coming through stop immediately !
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