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Valued Member
United States
462 Posts |
I have been looking out for city view thalers for long time as they are hard to come by for price I can afford. I just got this one for a extremely reasonable price and whats more it is graded. However the catch is it is graded by Numismatic conservation service (NCS) which is part of NGC now. From what I gathered they were only grading problem coins , now termed as detailed. I cannot see any common problems such as cleaning, excessive hair lines, ex mount etc.. by looking at the coin. Of course I could be wrong on above and that's why I am posting here :) I cannot see the edge in this slab and I can see couple of rim bumps in the reverse. So first question is how can I find the reason for detailed (problem)grading ? NCS mentions fire damage, corrosion etc.. Second question is what would you grade this as ? Thanks.    |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Nice coin, no evident problem visible in the pics. You wouldn't really send a coin to NCS for something like cleaning or a scratch. It'd be more for corrosion, env damage and so on. I think the coin is around EF/AU. You're right though, these are pretty expensive problem-free. Nice coin  |
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Valued Member
 United States
462 Posts |
Thanks I call the NCS and they are refusing to give information to someone other than the original owner, oh well. I wonder if it would be worth to send to NGC as a cross over to get a detailed grade. Or maybe I should break the slab and send it to TPG :) |
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New Member
Italy
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Hi there, That is a beauty. And from the pictures it actually looks trouble free. Some cleanings though are hard to spot. If I were you I'd have it slabbed by a more reputable TPG. Like you say, NGC. I'd go with PCGS. I'm curious to know how much you picked it up for? Congratulations! |
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Greece
425 Posts |
the coin is cleaned(surface hairlines)
NCS was a NGC's company for problematic coins.Now they do conservations for NGC
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New Member
Italy
26 Posts |
Epop!
With all due respect - and I don't mean that in a perfunctory way.
I'm curious to understand where you see hairlines in the photo provided?
They could well be there (hairlines), and that a cleaning has occurred is obviously not excluded, but please share your insight as to how you see the hairlines...
I see a few areas of potential suspicion, but nothing that's pointing to hairlines.
For me the light is too subdued to catch hairlines. I'd need slightly stronger contrast.
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Greece
425 Posts |
surface hairlines is a term used by TPG's which means lightly cleaned coin. The coin it's obviously cleaned and that is what I mean by surgace hairlines |
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Valued Member
United States
462 Posts |
perhaps you can point to where the obviuos cleaning has occurred. I am trying to learn how to spot them as majority of the coins I have posted here are deemed cleaned, most of them are obviuos with surface lines or discoloring with dipping in chemicals. Thank you.
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Greece
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it's not easy for me to explain because of the language. The flashy surfaces are the main reason for mthis cleaned coin.Also the incosistent grry patina on the coin
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Posted 06/26/2014 7:49 pm
